Ultimate Guitarist Poll (electronic, blues, instrumental, metal, album)

SweetSamBlues · 07-12-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Guitars are made of wood, metal, plastic and wiring... They have no souls. How can you put your soul into a guitar?

We're talking about Guitar here, not Zanpakutō.

Boo-Boo,
if you dont get it now, you never will. if you dont feel something when you (or someone else that you like) plays, then you should just quit playing.
seriously dude, take up drums or something if thats how you look at it.

BTW, i diddnt say guitars have souls, i said that the idea is to show your soul through the guitar.

SweetSamBlues · 07-12-2007, 08:32 AM

oh, and Zakk Wylde IS nasty. as long as he is playing ozzys songs and not his own

Special K · 07-12-2007, 09:01 PM

I like most of his BLS stuff too, but him and ozzy are crazy

boo boo · 07-13-2007, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetSamBlues

Boo-Boo,
if you dont get it now, you never will. if you dont feel something when you (or someone else that you like) plays, then you should just quit playing.
seriously dude, take up drums or something if thats how you look at it.

BTW, i diddnt say guitars have souls, i said that the idea is to show your soul through the guitar.

Again, a dumb figure of speech, you cant put your spiritual energy into an inanimate object.

SweetSamBlues · 07-13-2007, 08:46 AM

if your guitar is inanimate than you should definitely quit.

SweetSamBlues · 07-13-2007, 08:48 AM

Do you think that only singers can show how they feel with the tone of their voice? I believe that guitarists can too.

boo boo · 07-13-2007, 09:09 AM

You can't put soul, emotion, feeling or whatever the hell you want to call it into a guitar. It, like every other instrument is just a tool, a tool for playing notes you have wondering around in your head. Sounds like I'm over-simplifying it but I'm not, thats the way it is. Being emotionally atached to your own music, I understand that. People can put "feeling" into their songwriting, just not the music itself. Its all soundwaves. Soundwaves and therefore every note of music, has always existed. Music is a force of science, its not something to be limited by something as trivial and stupid as "feeling".

I enjoy making compositions on my bass and keyboards all the time, some of them I think are quite good. Maybe if I made a funny face or added some lyrics about a bad relationship then I could convince guys like you into thinking I put a lot of feeling into it, even if I wrote it while I was in the bathroom.

Weither music moves or not is just subjective, there is no guarantee that says a record that dosen't move you wont move someone else. Its all a matter of intrepretation. Just like abstract art. Its superficial.

Emotion is overrated anyway. Its the leading cause of many of societies problems. So I take great pride in being a very aloof, cold individual with few emotional attachments. I am a Jedi.

SweetSamBlues · 07-13-2007, 10:10 AM

Yea, tell that to jimi hendrix. actually, he's dead. so try...Santana. Or...David Gilmour. i think looking at music as a pure scientific/mathematical formula is superficial. technically, it is a formula. But that is the base value. Old blues men from the mississippi delta (Arguably the starting of most if not all modern music) did not look at thier music as a mathematical equation, i guarantee you. i never saw robert Johnson play, and for all you or i know, he sat there with the same expression the whole time he played. but you can still hear what he wants you to. I know plenty of great musicians who can play anything they want, but they will never sound like some of the gods we have mentioned. ever.
so Boo-Boo, i suggest you become a politician. Conservative i think. you have a knack for stonieness toward personal suffering.

boo boo · 07-13-2007, 10:23 AM

Ok lets look at Santana and Gilmour. Neither are particularly technical players. Rather they simply have a great melodic ear. But what they play isn't very advanced, and anyone can learn their licks in just a few years training, does this mean that the people who play what they read from the music perfectly are playing with emotion? Of course not. You just have the misleading idea that if its a pretty melody, than that person obviously must have invested a lot of emotion into writing it or playing it. This couldn't be further from the truth, its good song composition, plain and simple.

As for the blues, its no different from any other kind of music, which requires some kind of understanding of musical coposition. You can't expect to become a good blues guitarist just because you play with "feeling". You have to work for it. This is how my view is different from others here, I have respect for any musician if I think they are instrumentally talented, even if its someone whose music I hate. Because I know regardless of how I feel about the music, others feel different. Even Drean Theater earn my espect, even though I can't stand their music, they have worked damn hard to get where they are. So they do deserve some respect, even if according to the inconsistant logic of some people, they play with no "feeling".

And don't accuse me of not knowing a thing or two about personal suffering, I have listened to a Rusty Cooley album in its entirety.

anticipation · 07-13-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

And don't accuse me of not knowing a thing or two about personal suffering, I have listened to a Rusty Cooley album in its entirity.

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View Poll Results: Best Guitarist
Jimi Hendrix	24	64.86%
Jimmy Page	13	35.14%
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SweetSamBlues Groupie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: La Grange Posts: 44	oh, and Zakk Wylde IS nasty. as long as he is playing ozzys songs and not his own

07-13-2007, 08:46 AM	#325 (permalink)
SweetSamBlues Groupie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: La Grange Posts: 44	if your guitar is inanimate than you should definitely quit.

07-13-2007, 08:48 AM	#326 (permalink)
SweetSamBlues Groupie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: La Grange Posts: 44	Do you think that only singers can show how they feel with the tone of their voice? I believe that guitarists can too.

07-13-2007, 10:10 AM	#328 (permalink)
SweetSamBlues Groupie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: La Grange Posts: 44	Yea, tell that to jimi hendrix. actually, he's dead. so try...Santana. Or...David Gilmour. i think looking at music as a pure scientific/mathematical formula is superficial. technically, it is a formula. But that is the base value. Old blues men from the mississippi delta (Arguably the starting of most if not all modern music) did not look at thier music as a mathematical equation, i guarantee you. i never saw robert Johnson play, and for all you or i know, he sat there with the same expression the whole time he played. but you can still hear what he wants you to. I know plenty of great musicians who can play anything they want, but they will never sound like some of the gods we have mentioned. ever. so Boo-Boo, i suggest you become a politician. Conservative i think. you have a knack for stonieness toward personal suffering.