The Dillinger Escape Plan

333 · 06-01-2009, 10:34 PM

I don't mean in the sense of you telling us about his music. I'm very much familiar with his work. I mean elaborating on why you think he's so awesome. Ah, you know, forget it. Who am I to ask anyone to explain themselves? Go crazy with it.

PinkCigarette · 06-01-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 333

I don't mean in the sense of you telling us about his music. I'm very much familiar with his work. I mean elaborating on why you think he's so awesome. Ah, you know, forget it. Who am I to ask anyone to explain themselves? Go crazy with it.

Um...my answer was why I think he's awesome.

DugFace · 06-10-2009, 08:40 AM

Dillinger is definitely one of my favorites.
in my professional opinion, they **** gold ;D

ChiliColdBlood · 06-10-2009, 02:15 PM

Heh, yeah. One of my favourites, too. Going to see them next weekend.

On the downside, I just got my Lurch/Sick on Sunday shirts in the mail. The Lurch one is the wrong size, blah.

ElephantSack · 06-11-2009, 03:26 PM

I was expecting you guys to tear Ire Works apart. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that most of you have looked past some of the songs' more simplistic approaches, as opposed to the older Under the Running Board and Calculating Infinity techniques of ramming quadratic equations down your throat in record times: as awesome as that may be.

I thought that Ire Works demonstrated more of their personal tastes instead of perhaps pandering to fans who are still waiting for another Calculating Infinity. Not to remove any credit from their older work. Songs like "43% Burnt", "Sunshine the Werewolf", "Panasonic Youth" and "The Running Board" are untouchably heavy in their own respects.

But when I first heard the tracks "Milk Lizard" and "Mouth of Ghosts", it was the first time that I was really surprised by what they were doing. It was unexpected.

Now to address the Irony is a Dead Scene EP. I think it was just a great example of a prolific musician who had the time to do whatever he wanted in the studio with whoever wanted to do it with, finding a band that really impressed him and giving them some well-earned attention. Because not too many people knew about the DEP until that album came out. It basically took them from a band that you didn't want opening for you to a band that you would feel nervous about opening for.

That being said, Gil Sharon is a ****in' maniac. I think I actually prefer his approach to Chris Pennie's.

Kamikazi Kat · 08-29-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ElephantSack

I was expecting you guys to tear Ire Works apart. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that most of you have looked past some of the songs' more simplistic approaches, as opposed to the older Under the Running Board and Calculating Infinity techniques of ramming quadratic equations down your throat in record times: as awesome as that may be.

I thought that Ire Works demonstrated more of their personal tastes instead of perhaps pandering to fans who are still waiting for another Calculating Infinity. Not to remove any credit from their older work. Songs like "43% Burnt", "Sunshine the Werewolf", "Panasonic Youth" and "The Running Board" are untouchably heavy in their own respects.

But when I first heard the tracks "Milk Lizard" and "Mouth of Ghosts", it was the first time that I was really surprised by what they were doing. It was unexpected.

Now to address the Irony is a Dead Scene EP. I think it was just a great example of a prolific musician who had the time to do whatever he wanted in the studio with whoever wanted to do it with, finding a band that really impressed him and giving them some well-earned attention. Because not too many people knew about the DEP until that album came out. It basically took them from a band that you didn't want opening for you to a band that you would feel nervous about opening for.

That being said, Gil Sharon is a ****in' maniac. I think I actually prefer his approach to Chris Pennie's.

I don't know why everybody seems to think that their earlier albums are more technical, the chaotic songs on Ire Works beat the hell out of their older material for me. Maybe the focus was less on being technical for the sake of being technical, but the songs felt more chaotic then ever before and the parts that were technical were some of the most insane stuff the band ever played.

I do like Gil Sharon's drumming much better though, it feels much more loose and jazzy, less controlled. But I think a good portion of this has to do with the band's shift in songwriting style. I might have to double check this, but I'm pretty sure Chris Pennie wrote the drum parts for most of the songs. I think Gil wrote Horse Hunter, Mouth of Ghosts, and Dead as History, I may be wrong though.

ElephantSack · 12-29-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamikazi Kat

I don't know why everybody seems to think that their earlier albums are more technical, the chaotic songs on Ire Works beat the hell out of their older material for me. Maybe the focus was less on being technical for the sake of being technical, but the songs felt more chaotic then ever before and the parts that were technical were some of the most insane stuff the band ever played.

I do like Gil Sharon's drumming much better though, it feels much more loose and jazzy, less controlled. But I think a good portion of this has to do with the band's shift in songwriting style. I might have to double check this, but I'm pretty sure Chris Pennie wrote the drum parts for most of the songs. I think Gil wrote Horse Hunter, Mouth of Ghosts, and Dead as History, I may be wrong though.

Right on. Well, you probably know more about it than I do. I just listen to shit like "The Mullet Burden", "43% Burnt" and "Under the Running Board", and I don't know, maybe it's because it was back when they had more of a "hardcore" edge to their sound. Which is why so-called purists reject their newer material. You know, typical self-righteous rhetoric.

But yeah. Gil Sharon's style is definitely more jazz-influenced. I think he might have come from a jazz background, actually. I remember reading that him and his brothers were in a jazz-based band before The D.E.P. got him. Not to say that Chris Pennie wasn't awesome. He was just more rigid, in my opinion.

almauro · 12-30-2009, 05:42 AM

TDEP is all good. I just got a hold of Irony is a Dead Scene and man it's great! I wish Patton would cut a few more tracks with them.

Alfred · 06-11-2009, 03:44 PM

I still haven't listened to Calculating Infinity but I expect that it's a collection of songs that sound similar to the more chaotic songs on Ire Works and Miss Machine. And the vocals are probably weaker.

But, since I've been listening to Dillinger a lot more recently, I'll definitely look into this one.

ChiliColdBlood · 06-12-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

I still haven't listened to Calculating Infinity but I expect that it's a collection of songs that sound similar to the more chaotic songs on Ire Works and Miss Machine. And the vocals are probably weaker.

But, since I've been listening to Dillinger a lot more recently, I'll definitely look into this one.

It's a classic, dude. Check it out ASAP.

12-30-2009, 05:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
almauro Way Out There Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 850	TDEP is all good. I just got a hold of Irony is a Dead Scene and man it's great! I wish Patton would cut a few more tracks with them. __________________ rock n music blog

06-11-2009, 03:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	I still haven't listened to Calculating Infinity but I expect that it's a collection of songs that sound similar to the more chaotic songs on Ire Works and Miss Machine. And the vocals are probably weaker. But, since I've been listening to Dillinger a lot more recently, I'll definitely look into this one. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

06-01-2009, 10:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	I don't mean in the sense of you telling us about his music. I'm very much familiar with his work. I mean elaborating on why you think he's so awesome. Ah, you know, forget it. Who am I to ask anyone to explain themselves? Go crazy with it.

06-10-2009, 08:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
DugFace Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	Dillinger is definitely one of my favorites. in my professional opinion, they **** gold ;D

06-10-2009, 02:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChiliColdBlood Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: TO Posts: 184	Heh, yeah. One of my favourites, too. Going to see them next weekend. On the downside, I just got my Lurch/Sick on Sunday shirts in the mail. The Lurch one is the wrong size, blah.

06-11-2009, 03:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
ElephantSack Man vs. Wild Turkey Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 948	I was expecting you guys to tear Ire Works apart. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that most of you have looked past some of the songs' more simplistic approaches, as opposed to the older Under the Running Board and Calculating Infinity techniques of ramming quadratic equations down your throat in record times: as awesome as that may be. I thought that Ire Works demonstrated more of their personal tastes instead of perhaps pandering to fans who are still waiting for another Calculating Infinity. Not to remove any credit from their older work. Songs like "43% Burnt", "Sunshine the Werewolf", "Panasonic Youth" and "The Running Board" are untouchably heavy in their own respects. But when I first heard the tracks "Milk Lizard" and "Mouth of Ghosts", it was the first time that I was really surprised by what they were doing. It was unexpected. Now to address the Irony is a Dead Scene EP. I think it was just a great example of a prolific musician who had the time to do whatever he wanted in the studio with whoever wanted to do it with, finding a band that really impressed him and giving them some well-earned attention. Because not too many people knew about the DEP until that album came out. It basically took them from a band that you didn't want opening for you to a band that you would feel nervous about opening for. That being said, Gil Sharon is a ****in' maniac. I think I actually prefer his approach to Chris Pennie's.