Suicide Silence

Metal Connoisseur · 02-06-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Nonsense; not every genre has quality bands. Some genres are composed completely of ****; deathcore is one of these.

So I take it, you didn't enjoy the link posted above? I think I know the answer to this already as you've shown in the past your disdain for high production value

Howard the Duck · 02-07-2012, 01:28 AM

ok, have gotten into deathcore

Suicide Silence is not horrendously crap

they're ok

The Batlord · 02-07-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

So I take it, you didn't enjoy the link posted above? I think I know the answer to this already as you've shown in the past your disdain for high production value

You say that like it's a bad thing. One of the things I hate so much about metal bands these days is the production. They overproduce their albums so that everything becomes crystal clear and robotic. Metal is supposed to sound a little ugly, if not a whole lot ugly. That's where the evil is.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 02-07-2012, 10:22 AM

I don't think there is anything wrong with good production. Good production and a clean, crisp sound doesn't necessarily mean something is overproduced. Different bands have different flavors so to speak, and the lo-fi aesthetic lends itself better to some bands more than others. Even within genres one way is better than the other in terms of production. I think a band like Meshuggah benefits a lot from good production values, as seen in their most recent album (although I haven't hear KOLOSS yet). Lamb of God's sound lends itself better to the more raw sound (the first two albums). You can still sound gritty and ugly with good production, but this should depend on the artist's ability to do so rather than on how murky the production is.

Dr_Rez · 02-07-2012, 10:26 AM

All I can say is Best Metal album ever created = Black Sabbath S/t. How was it made....in a basement in one day for 500 dollars.

hip hop bunny hop · 02-07-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

So I take it, you didn't enjoy the link posted above? I think I know the answer to this already as you've shown in the past your disdain for high production value

Two things:

1) the second half of the song was interesting, but the first half was godawful. According to my math, this means the song was - at best - mediocre.

2)I've nothing against high production values in and of themselves, but I certainly don't view it as an asset of such value that it will elevate a **** band to a quality one.

The Batlord · 02-07-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

I don't think there is anything wrong with good production. Good production and a clean, crisp sound doesn't necessarily mean something is overproduced. Different bands have different flavors so to speak, and the lo-fi aesthetic lends itself better to some bands more than others. Even within genres one way is better than the other in terms of production.

Sure, but a pure clean sound, like say Killswitch Engage's sanitized production takes all the aggression and anger out of the sound and leaves us with emotionless aggro riffs that sound good, but not much else. It makes the melodic part of their sound sound great and catchy, but they might as well dump the aggressive part, cause it just sounds fake.

Same problem with a lot of death metal bands. I'm sorry Necrophagist, but you blow. Sure, there are other reason's why they suck, but the crystal clear production is one good reason.

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I think a band like Meshuggah benefits a lot from good production values, as seen in their most recent album (although I haven't hear KOLOSS yet).

I'm not particularly familiar with Meshuggah, mostly because they've got the same emotionless, robotic approach to metal as so many modern bands and I just don't really care to listen to them. Sure, the songs may be heavy and brutal, but they've got no heart. Again for other reasons than just production, but the production is just ****ing boring.

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Lamb of God's sound lends itself better to the more raw sound (the first two albums). You can still sound gritty and ugly with good production, but this should depend on the artist's ability to do so rather than on how murky the production is.

No you really can't. Old school Lamb of God rules. It's raw and ****ed up as ****. But couldn't care less about them after New American Gospel. I mean, there was a time I dug them, but they just get more and more boring for me as the years go by. Again, for many reasons, but the production is just plain boring. The guitars have groove, sure, but nothing else to make me think, "Oh ****! That's ****in' sick, dude!"

I'm not saying you've got to be trve kvlt and sound like you recorded in a garbage can, but leave some fuzz for god's sake! I say this while listening to Among the Living. Certainly not the most necro of albums, but the production is still not the sanitized, robot sound of Killswitch Engage or Meshuggah.

Dr_Rez · 02-07-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm not saying you've got to be trve kvlt and sound like you recorded in a garbage can, but leave some fuzz for god's sake!.

Sounds like you need some Doom metal.

The Batlord · 02-07-2012, 11:47 AM

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Sounds like you need some Doom metal.

Good idea.

Now that's fuzz.

Sneer · 02-07-2012, 12:40 PM

This band is still going? Joy. I thought after The Cleansing they'd die along with the rest of the vapid deathcore scene.

I'll crawl back to my hole of blissful ignorance.

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LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	I don't think there is anything wrong with good production. Good production and a clean, crisp sound doesn't necessarily mean something is overproduced. Different bands have different flavors so to speak, and the lo-fi aesthetic lends itself better to some bands more than others. Even within genres one way is better than the other in terms of production. I think a band like Meshuggah benefits a lot from good production values, as seen in their most recent album (although I haven't hear KOLOSS yet). Lamb of God's sound lends itself better to the more raw sound (the first two albums). You can still sound gritty and ugly with good production, but this should depend on the artist's ability to do so rather than on how murky the production is.