Nevermind, let's talk about the same handful of bands that suck ad nauseum

~~telepicker~~ · 05-08-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by xEMGx

You are going to piss a lot of people off with that mouth.

The story of my life...

Unknown Soldier · 05-08-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

nickleback is the Boston of our time.

Journey is the Shinedown.

And Styx are the Train of today.

F*cking horrible.

Dennis DeYoung's voice is like putting my penis on a cheese grater and furiously scraping it across repeatedly. The overly-processed synthesized schlock that Styx churned out on the reg is the crap that gave progressive rock a bad name. "Come Sail Away?". No, thanks - long, boring, and pretentious. "The Grand Illusion?". Sounds like a rejected Freddie Mercury demo. "Mr. Roboto?" No wonder Tommy Shaw quit the band - even he couldn't take the crap anymore.

Boston? I hate the town, first of all. Secondly, they are the poster children for nameless, faceless crappy 70's AOR Arena Rock. They made the template; consequently, it was the band Boston whom Johnny Rotten had in mind when he referenced dinosaurs. Trust me. Besides, is there anything more pretentious than "More Than A Feeling?". **** Boston. Brad Delp is annoying, and Tom Scholtz - meh, as a guitarist. As a songwriter? Uck.

Which brings me to Journey...

Never has there been such a waste of raw musical talent as this band. When Neil Schon and Gregg Rolie left Santana, many thought that the band they put together was going to be awesome. And, truthfully, the first two records (with Aynsley Dunbar on drums - WITHOUT Steve Perry) have their moments of non-suckitude. But then, they decided to hire Steve Perry. Aynsley quit in disgust. So, they get Steve Smith on drums...and he's a badass drummer. But, somehow, the suck quotient went up...until you've such schmaltzy radio-friendly regurgitation like "Wheel In the Sky"..."Lights" is almost earnest enough go pull it off, but misses...finally, when it was Journey: ESCAPE and they had Atari games and stuff...they just sucked. Go look at the video for "Seperate Ways". Listen to the song. It's HORRiBLE. Cheese. Not good processed cheese, either (like Velveeta) - this straight-up stinking green government cheese. The worst.

Like I say, I would rather listen to John Lee Hooker playing one note repeatedly forever than to subject myself to the torture that is called "classic rock radio."

and I hate REOSpeedwagon and .38 Special, too.

Just to be safe.

Comparing Nickelback to Boston is a very strange analogy, I don`t see how you can compare a Nirvanaesque post-grunge type band to Boston, they`re almost different ends of the rock spectrum, also Nickelback has a horrible singer whereas Brad Delp was rather sublime.

As for Shinedown, they have far more in common with Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden or Soundgarden etc as far as their influences go, than to that of Journey!!!

Train of Today never heard of them and neither has wikipedia!!!!

Personally, I think "Grand Illusion" far superior to anything that Queen did despite the fact that Styx borrowed a lot from Queen. Tommy Shaw actually left the band, as he wanted to put the band back into a more rock orientated direction as opposed to the commercial synth based style that De Young had led the group. "Kilroy Was Here" is actually a great concept and atmospheric album and actually has some of Mr.Shaw`s best songs despite all his complaints.

In reference to Boston and AOR in general, this was just a style of music that continued the great melodic traditions of the American west coast sound that were laid down in the 60`s with bands such as Creedence Clearwater, Love and Beach Boys etc and evolved through bands such as Santana, Eagles and Doobie Brothers etc and of course a whole load of other bands from central and eastern USA as well. The current crop that were around in the late 70`s such as Boston along with the whole prog scene as well, were the victims of Johnny Rotten and punk in general, had they been around ten years earlier, groups like Love and Beach Boys would have got it in the neck instead!!!

Finally, Neil Schon never left Journey (was always a core member of the band) it was only Greg Rolie who left. The reason he left, is that he just wasn`t a lead singer and the group desperately needed that (even though his singing wasn`t bad) thus enter Steve Perry. As for "Seperate Ways" great song and great video and there`s even a good cover version of it on youtube as well.

I`ve certainly matched your content here, but of course my opinion was far better thought out than yours, so as you Yanks say "Have a nice day"

crash_override · 05-09-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Comparing Nickelback to Boston is a very strange analogy, I don`t see how you can compare a Nirvanaesque post-grunge type band to Boston, they`re almost different ends of the rock spectrum, also Nickelback has a horrible singer whereas Brad Delp was rather sublime.

As for Shinedown, they have far more in common with Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden or Soundgarden etc as far as their influences go, than to that of Journey!!!

Train of Today never heard of them and neither has wikipedia!!!!

Personally, I think "Grand Illusion" far superior to anything that Queen did despite the fact that Styx borrowed a lot from Queen. Tommy Shaw actually left the band, as he wanted to put the band back into a more rock orientated direction as opposed to the commercial synth based style that De Young had led the group. "Kilroy Was Here" is actually a great concept and atmospheric album and actually has some of Mr.Shaw`s best songs despite all his complaints.

In reference to Boston and AOR in general, this was just a style of music that continued the great melodic traditions of the American west coast sound that were laid down in the 60`s with bands such as Creedence Clearwater, Love and Beach Boys etc and evolved through bands such as Santana, Eagles and Doobie Brothers etc and of course a whole load of other bands from central and eastern USA as well. The current crop that were around in the late 70`s such as Boston along with the whole prog scene as well, were the victims of Johnny Rotten and punk in general, had they been around ten years earlier, groups like Love and Beach Boys would have got it in the neck instead!!!

Finally, Neil Schon never left Journey (was always a core member of the band) it was only Greg Rolie who left. The reason he left, is that he just wasn`t a lead singer and the group desperately needed that (even though his singing wasn`t bad) thus enter Steve Perry. As for "Seperate Ways" great song and great video and there`s even a good cover version of it on youtube as well.

I`ve certainly matched your content here, but of course my opinion was far better thought out than yours, so as you Yanks say "Have a nice day"

I think he was referring to this band, in the present tense.

Unknown Soldier · 05-09-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

I think he was referring to this band, in the present tense.

You`re right, as Train are a group that seem to play country rock and roots rock, but again you couldn`t get any further away from Styx with this comparison.

mr dave · 05-09-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by telepicker

nickleback is the Boston of our time.

Journey is the Shinedown.

And Styx are the Train of today.

and I hate REOSpeedwagon and .38 Special, too.

Just to be safe.

thank you.

Journey has irritated the hell out of me forever and a day and i never understood their resurgence. then again i never really 'got' the whole 'irony' movement either, mainly because i saw it backfiring in everyone's faces.

case in point - Journey. quite possibly the cheesiest most schmaltzy crap rock band ever. a few years ago every hipster worth their hoodie was requesting their tracks because it was 'ironic LOL!'. only they were too up their own butts to notice that they thoroughly blurred the line between what they were ridiculing and what they were enjoying. consider when Family Guy uses their stuff... it's the music middle aged men want to hear when they want 'something good'. a throwback to an era of calculated trash by a bunch of prima donnas trying to front like they aren't frauds.

The Butcher · 05-09-2010, 07:57 PM

Green Day,The Beatles,All American Rejects and worst of all Hinder.

Insane Guest · 05-09-2010, 11:11 PM

I don't like The Beatles either, but that will get us nowhere, they have too many arguments proving that they "don't suck."

mr dave · 05-10-2010, 01:27 AM

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I don't like The Beatles either, but that will get us nowhere, they have too many arguments proving that they "don't suck."

you don't have to like them but it's folly to pretend like they aren't deserving of most of their recognition. they 'were' great, but they are not the be all end all of popular music like some would lead others to believe.

i find they've got just as much forgettable stuff as they do good.

bubu · 05-10-2010, 10:30 AM

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Green Day,The Beatles,All American Rejects and worst of all Hinder.

Tell me you don't like green day's "time of your life" and i will sell my guitar.

~~James~~ · 05-10-2010, 10:33 AM

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Tell me you don't like green day's "time of your life" and i will sell my guitar.

I don't like Green Day's "time of your life".

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