Originally Posted by Kashmir86

yeah your right, the metal bands that sing abou satan worshipping and bloody gore and violence ****ing suck almost as bad as rap. i hate them too. i do not listen to them. nor do i listen to punk, although i havent heard of many punk songs that talk about shooting up. lets compare rap to rock and its messages of sex, drugs and rock n roll.

im not sure if your saying that love me do is a bad song or what, but that alone shows your ignorance. there are many rock songs that speak of sex, but all of the ones ive heard and liked involved sex with girls, (ones that are alive, and not your mother or 7 year olds). i can not think of one song in my music collection that speaks of deliberate murder, as 100s of rap songs out there do. oh, imagine this, jam master jay, the all important "dj" of your precious run dmc, was shot in the head and killed. hmm that sounds familiar, someone to do with rap getting shot, isnt that like an everyday occurence, must be because of their peaceful lyrics and lifestyle. I don't think there is a single genre of music that has seen so much violence and why is that do you think? so anyways boo boo go on listening to your precious rap, with its phat beats and all. i used to hold a lot of respect for you, but not anymore. in fact im hoping i get banned because ever since joining this forum my intellegince is dropping

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

You are not worth arguing with but I will do it anyway.
Your example of Jam Master Jay getting shot in the head.
I guess your forgetting that John Lennon was shot four times.
Your precious John Bonham drank himself to death.
Jimi Hendrix overdosed on sleeping pills.
Hmm....murder, drugs, drugs....sorta sounds like the lyrics to one of your **** example rap songs, except...this all pertains to rock music.

Once again, how can you say there is no good rap song. You haven't heard 1/4 of the rap that is made.. Ther eis good rap but your ignorace prevents you from listening to it. And, you know what, I hope you get banned as well. I mean...If talking to us is lowering your IQ, we wouldnt want you have it drop any lower than it was in the first place.

Then, your point about rap being hipocritical because they don't really live the hard life. Well, some of them probably didn't. But what about the majority that did. What about the origins of rap being in the ghettos of New York and California. You use **** examples to convey your useless ignorant point.

Originally Posted by Kashmir86

no i didnt miss it, it was just a ****ty argument. you mentioned john lennon getting shot, wow, 1 person. lets see im sure i cant count the amount of rappers that have been shot shot on both hands let alone both hands and feet. maybe thats because rap pisses people off. do you really think most people leave a rap concert with peace of mind like they would have left woodstock or a beatles concert or any great rock concert? if their lives are so hard, maybe they should sing about it like human beings, like people like bob dylan and even led zeppelin did for that matter, while playing actuall instruments. im still waiting for someone to tell me a song besides rap that does not have an instrument playing besides a bunch of stupid synths and drum machines and computer created ****ty sounds. rap is dumbening our society

Originally Posted by jibber

"Dumbening our society"? Dear god i hope you were going for irony on that one you dumb f*ck. I'd tell you to listen to all rap before you lump it into one big category, but it would be useless. Hell I have a feelng trying to explain to you why 2+2=4 would be useless because your tiny little brain just couldnt handle it. here's a thought to wrap your little mind around, different people like different kinds of music. *GASP* shocking I know. it's always hard for ignorant little sh*ts like you to learn that your opinions aren't the be-all and end-all of all discussions. Now instead of wasting your energy typing a response to this, go log on to sylvan learning center and get yourself a tutor. trust me, it would be much more beneficial for you in the long run.

Originally Posted by jibber

"Dumbening our society"? Dear god i hope you were going for irony on that one you dumb f*ck. I'd tell you to listen to all rap before you lump it into one big category, but it would be useless. Hell I have a feelng trying to explain to you why 2+2=4 would be useless because your tiny little brain just couldnt handle it. here's a thought to wrap your little mind around, different people like different kinds of music. *GASP* shocking I know. it's always hard for ignorant little sh*ts like you to learn that your opinions aren't the be-all and end-all of all discussions. Now instead of wasting your energy typing a response to this, go log on to sylvan learning center and get yourself a tutor. trust me, it would be much more beneficial for you in the long run.