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Paedantic Basterd 03-10-2012 10:46 AM

If anything should make it hard to take Beck seriously, it's lyrics like "I'm the enchanting wizard of rhythm" or "Do the hotdog dance". :laughing:

mr dave 03-11-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1163826)
If anything should make it hard to take Beck seriously, it's lyrics like "I'm the enchanting wizard of rhythm" or "Do the hotdog dance". :laughing:

Get funky with the cheese whiz.


Now break it down! :drummer:

OOS 03-11-2012 09:55 AM

I love the "enchanted wizard of rhythm" bit :laughing:.

Sparky 03-11-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1163495)
I don't understand how learning of an individual's personal religious convictions changes the value and worth of their creations. It's not like his early albums were veiled conversion attempts and it's not like his later albums have taken on a big religious bend since his personal beliefs have become public knowledge.

So why anyone has a hard time taking him seriously now aside from ignorant bigotry is beyond me.

You view Scientology as a established religion, I still view it as a very profitable cult.

I used to like Craig Mack ( early 90's bad boy label rapper) but you could understand why I can't value his lyrics-a product of his outlook on life, when he now resides with a Christian Cult leader "Brother Stair"?

I judge music on my ability to resonate with it. Some have posted his nonsensical lyrics, saying he's intentionally not trying to be taking seriously, I disagree with this.

"Im a loser baby, so why don't you kill me" was a great generational message, similiar to radioheads creep. However, when you picture him writing that after being e-readed, and believing he can manipulate objects with his mind it absolutely loses it's value to me. I'm admittedly ignorant in that respect.


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Originally Posted by Mrd00d (Post 1163400)
I try my damndest to ignore the scientology. I've spent time thinking about what made him go that route. Why?!? I can't really get my head around it. Makes me think he's been brainwashed and that some of his songs are him trying to reach out to the fans for help :D

Maybe the church of Scientology initially helped fund his music? It sounds ludicrous, but this cult does keep tabs on all it's members.

Howard the Duck 03-12-2012 03:06 AM

Guerolito is one of the few remix albums i actually enjoy

otherwise, not a fan of this format

mr dave 03-12-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1164120)
Maybe the church of Scientology initially helped fund his music? It sounds ludicrous, but this cult does keep tabs on all it's members.

As far as this last point goes I do have some albums from the 70s from some Scientologists, I think it might be a Chick Corea vinyl that actually has a blurb about the 'Church of Scientology' on the back. I don't ever recall any mention of the CoS on any Beck disc so I'm thinking he kept his personal and professional sides separate.

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1164120)
However, when you picture him writing that after being e-readed, and believing he can manipulate objects with his mind it absolutely loses it's value to me. I'm admittedly ignorant in that respect.

This however... :banghead:

However, when you picture him writing that after being baptized, and believing he can ascend to heaven with his devotion it absolutely loses it's value to me. I'm admittedly prejudiced in that respect.

If you want to limit yourself based on your perceptions of the private lives and beliefs of others that's very much your own prerogative but do recognize you're being a bit more than just ignorant with your stance.

Sparky 03-12-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1164392)



This however... :banghead:

However, when you picture him writing that after being baptized, and believing he can ascend to heaven with his devotion it absolutely loses it's value to me. I'm admittedly prejudiced in that respect.

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Christianity is very loose. If Beck was a member of a Christian cult, it would be a better comparison.

I've been baptized, doesn't mean I follow anything from the Bible.
Scientology isn't like that, your either a following member, being e-readed and taking courses to further your psychokinetic abilities or your out.

Christianity also allows for it's doctrine to be read and interpreted by the public, while Scientology is very closed off and info is only available to higher ranking members, who have spent a lot of money to get that position.

Again, Scientology is not comparable to established religions.
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If you want to limit yourself based on your perceptions of the private lives and beliefs of others that's very much your own prerogative but do recognize you're being a bit more than just ignorant with your stance.
Ok. I recognize it. I absolutely will continue to judge others on their beliefs, as well as their private lives if it involves something as astounding as being part of a crazy cult.

duga 08-08-2012 01:43 PM

His new album is apparently only going to be available as sheet music.

I definitely don't like Beck enough to try to figure it out, but does anyone here?

Mrd00d 08-08-2012 10:22 PM

My buddy got tickets to see him at San Francisco's Bimbos. It's such a small and intimate venue, it's going to be great...

I didn't hear that his new album would be sheet only...

Howard the Duck 08-09-2012 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1216476)
His new album is apparently only going to be available as sheet music.

I definitely don't like Beck enough to try to figure it out, but does anyone here?

i can't read music, only notes of equal time


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