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Rickenbacker 06-29-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 693791)
Phil Collins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joey Jordison.

Wanking at the double bass does not a great drummer make.

Lol at Phil Collins.


Come on

crash_override 06-29-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker (Post 693928)
Lol at Phil Collins.


Come on

Ugh, you people wouldn't know good drumming if your face was a kick drum.

boo boo 06-29-2009 12:00 PM

I'd take Dave Grohl's, Ringo Starr's and Phil Collins' simple and tasteful drum work over double bass wankers like Joey Jordison and Chris Adler any day of the week.

lucifer_sam 06-29-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 693911)
Are you kidding, Grohl is an intense drummer. Awesome dynamics, adds to the song, rarely over plays. The man has taste, and honestly I like him much better as a drummer than a Vocalist/Guitarist. Have you ever heard Songs for The Deaf? The drumming on that alum is amazing, not to mention Nirvana. Bottom line, to refuse Grohl even an "honorable mention", is sitting somewhere on a fence between ignorance and foolish-ness.

Brant Bjork was a better drummer than Dave Grohl could ever be.

crash_override 06-29-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 693938)
I'd take Dave Grohl's, Ringo Starr's and Phil Collins' simple and tasteful drum work over double bass wankers like Joey Jordison and Chris Adler any day of the week.

Couldn't agree more. That stuff is over-playing, and most of the time it's used at the wrong time. It takes away from the music for the most part, although some drummers (Neil Peart included) can be very tasteful with their double bass work.

crash_override 06-29-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 693942)
Brant Bjork was a better drummer than Dave Grohl could ever be.

“It was loud, and I was never the best drummer. I was never technically very good—I taught myself how to play—and I just wanted to be heard and to make noise. I didn’t know what the difference was between a ride and a crash. When you’re playing punk rock and heavy rock as a kid with loud guitars, there were a lot of areas where in between riffs where the music would breathe, and I didn’t want to hear that little ping-y sound. When you ping on the ride, it’s almost like playing a note on the guitar, and when you crash on the ride, it’s like playing a power chord on the guitar. So I just kind of filled up some space.” - Brant Bjork (on record)

Another overrated multi-instrumentalist wannabee. Happened to be in a cool as **** band for a while but that doesn't make him better than Dave Grohl. Or even close for that matter.

boo boo 06-29-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 693943)
Couldn't agree more.

Collins' skills in particular are very underestimated. His work with Gabriel era Genesis, Brand X and Brian Eno had him dealing with a lot of tricky time signatures, polyrhythms and tempo changes. People only know him for his 80s pop stuff, which is a shame. He's a very very very underrated drummer.

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That stuff is over-playing, and most of the time it's used at the wrong time. It takes away from the music for the most part, although some drummers (Neil Peart included) can be very tasteful with their double bass work.
Yeah, that's not to say there aren't great drummers at the double bass. Danny Carey of course.

I do have a hard on for some of the more technical drummers, like Bruford and Peart. But while they're very technical they still know how to suit the songs perfectly.

Mirrorball95 06-29-2009 12:13 PM

I think Jack Irons is pretty underrated. But perhaps Im biased if I told you what album he played on lol. I also think Steve White is pretty awesome. John Bonham doesnt go a miss either. Theres more, but I cant remember them right now.

SATCHMO 06-29-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 693955)
Collins' skills in particular are very underestimated. His work with Gabriel era Genesis, Brand X and Brian Eno had him dealing with a lot of tricky time signatures, polyrhythms and tempo changes. People only know him for his 80s pop stuff, which is a shame. He's a very very very underrated drummer.




Yeah, that's not to say there aren't great drummers at the double bass. Danny Carey of course.

I do have a hard on for some of the more technical drummers, like Bruford and Peart. But while they're very technical they still know how to suit the songs perfectly.

Bill Bruford has always been my favorite rock drummer.

lucifer_sam 06-29-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 693947)
“It was loud, and I was never the best drummer. I was never technically very good—I taught myself how to play—and I just wanted to be heard and to make noise. I didn’t know what the difference was between a ride and a crash. When you’re playing punk rock and heavy rock as a kid with loud guitars, there were a lot of areas where in between riffs where the music would breathe, and I didn’t want to hear that little ping-y sound. When you ping on the ride, it’s almost like playing a note on the guitar, and when you crash on the ride, it’s like playing a power chord on the guitar. So I just kind of filled up some space.” - Brant Bjork (on record)

Another overrated multi-instrumentalist wannabee. Happened to be in a cool as **** band for a while but that doesn't make him better than Dave Grohl. Or even close for that matter.

wait, you're talking about Grohl now, right?

because you're an idiot if you think Bjork wasn't an integral part of the songwriting core of Kyuss. he wrote or co-wrote at least half of Kyuss' first three albums alongside Homme, he got more songwriting credits than Garcia ever did. and it was the absence of Bjork that drove the band to seek alternative berths for their creative output.


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