Best Drummer

khfreek · 04-06-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell

Brann Dailor's a good drummer. I don't know about the best but I think he's a mentionable drummer.

People get in a circle jerk about him because he's a metal drummer that doesn't use double bass, not legendary or anything IMO. Double bass can have it's uses.

Automatic Slim · 04-06-2009, 11:52 PM

I'm voting Neil Peart over Keith Moon, though I prefer the Who to Rush by a wide margin. As far as who's the best, on or off the list, I'm not even remotely qualified to try an answer.

Surell · 04-07-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek

People get in a circle jerk about him because he's a metal drummer that doesn't use double bass, not legendary or anything IMO. Double bass can have it's uses.

I say it because his drums sound good on their songs. I could give a damn about double bass or snare or cymbal.

crash_override · 04-08-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell

I say it because his drums sound good on their songs. I could give a damn about double bass or snare or cymbal.

So your drum set has one bass pedal, no snare, and no cymbals? That would be interesting to see.

ixtlan22 · 04-08-2009, 12:36 PM

OK I'd like to say a few things. First of all I'm sick of "who's the best" anythings in music. What is the competition? Seriously? It's the most circular pointless discussion. At the end of the day Meg White who you've all heard of is raking in checks for her playing because it fits their wack ass tunes but Ted Poor who I'm willing to bet no one here has heard of, yet is absolutely one of, if not the most, proficient and musical drummer alive, struggles to eat while playing a gig every night in NYC. What it comes down to is who is the best for what they do? John Bonham is the best drummer. For Led Zeppelin. Keith Moon is the best drummer. For The Who. Ginger Baker is the best drummer. For Cream. Neil Peart is the best drummer. For Rush. And finally you guessed it, Danny Carey is the best drummer.... for Tool.

There is good reason all these bands are epicly famous. They had the right person for their own unique sound. Someone here said "Neil Peart plays too many fills..." well, in just about every city in the country 25,000 people will pay 80 bucks just to see Neil Peart play too many fills. Just like the same number will pay whatever to see Meg White play sloppy as **** and probably wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm guilty of this too because I posted on this page earlier... but for anyone to say that they know who the best drummer is, is to say that they are an authority on all of music, defining what is good and what is bad, and then what a good drummer ought to be to suit that. We can talk about our opinions but the tone of authority and certainty people argue with on this page is hilarious. The beauty of music is that its not competitive and the more people argue about "who the best drummer" is, the more bull**** technique will overtake musical honesty.

Look at Ringo. (And yes I know John and Paul played on a bunch of tunes but still...) The dude was super sloppy and his chops were non-existent. But his choices were immaculate. And he is part of the reason The Beatles are what they are and will always be remembered as. Not to mention the entire generation of drummers he inspired.

So after all that I apologize because there is plenty of intelligent discussion going on here... The point I'm trying to make is just that I think the notion of a "best" drummer or guitar player or whatever existing is ridiculous and I know we can humbly talk about what we like and dislike about our favorite musicians without that assumption.

crash_override · 04-08-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ixtlan22

OK I'd like to say a few things. First of all I'm sick of "who's the best" anythings in music. What is the competition? Seriously? It's the most circular pointless discussion. At the end of the day Meg White who you've all heard of is raking in checks for her playing because it fits their wack ass tunes but Ted Poor who I'm willing to bet no one here has heard of, yet is absolutely one of, if not the most, proficient and musical drummer alive, struggles to eat while playing a gig every night in NYC. What it comes down to is who is the best for what they do? John Bonham is the best drummer. For Led Zeppelin. Keith Moon is the best drummer. For The Who. Ginger Baker is the best drummer. For Cream. Neil Peart is the best drummer. For Rush. And finally you guessed it, Danny Carey is the best drummer.... for Tool.

There is good reason all these bands are epicly famous. They had the right person for their own unique sound. Someone here said "Neil Peart plays too many fills..." well, in just about every city in the country 25,000 people will pay 80 bucks just to see Neil Peart play too many fills. Just like the same number will pay whatever to see Meg White play sloppy as **** and probably wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm guilty of this too because I posted on this page earlier... but for anyone to say that they know who the best drummer is, is to say that they are an authority on all of music, defining what is good and what is bad, and then what a good drummer ought to be to suit that. We can talk about our opinions but the tone of authority and certainty people argue with on this page is hilarious. The beauty of music is that its not competitive and the more people argue about "who the best drummer" is, the more bull**** technique will overtake musical honesty.

Look at Ringo. (And yes I know John and Paul played on a bunch of tunes but still...) The dude was super sloppy and his chops were non-existent. But his choices were immaculate. And he is part of the reason The Beatles are what they are and will always be remembered as. Not to mention the entire generation of drummers he inspired.

So after all that I apologize because there is plenty of intelligent discussion going on here... The point I'm trying to make is just that I think the notion of a "best" drummer or guitar player or whatever existing is ridiculous and I know we can humbly talk about what we like and dislike about our favorite musicians without that assumption.

This is a very good point you bring up, and I have to say I somewhat agree. Most of these poll's should be 'Whose your favorite drummer?' rather than who's the best. That's what I normally try to stress in these types of threads. For example, I voted for Peart in this poll because I enjoy his drumming better than most any other drummer. Also, like you said, he is the best drummer for Rush. Which I thought was an excellent point btw. I happen to enjoy Rush very much, so when it comes down to it, I'm voting the drummer which I enjoy the most and who fits in well with a band I also like. I think if more people did that rather than vote for the drummer who plays fastest or does more technical fills, these polls would be alot better and spark more constructive discussion.

The Vintage Sound · 04-11-2009, 12:56 PM

Well, my favorite drummer, and my pick for best drummer, happens to be Keith Moon! Anyone could argue that Keith isn't the best off all time...but it cannot be denied he was a huge influence for all rock drummers today!!!

I would also like to say that Gene Krupa is an amazing drummer! He was very much responsible for tunable drumheads, he invented the rim shot, and many other things dealing with drums.

Surell · 04-11-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

So your drum set has one bass pedal, no snare, and no cymbals? That would be interesting to see.

I just wail on high hat and a percussion. It's fun. And I only have one pedal for real.

scottsy · 04-12-2009, 05:55 PM

Yeah, I guess all this talk of best drummer and whatnot makes it all seem like a sport when its actually more about art...

crash_override · 04-12-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell

I just wail on high hat and a percussion. It's fun. And I only have one pedal for real.

Sometimes simple is better.

View Poll Results: Best Drummer
John Bonham	123	25.95%
Keith Moon	102	21.52%
Ginger Baker	23	4.85%
Neil Peart	139	29.32%
Danny Carey	87	18.35%
Voters: 474. You may not vote on this poll

04-06-2009, 11:52 PM	#742 (permalink)
Automatic Slim Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 92	I'm voting Neil Peart over Keith Moon, though I prefer the Who to Rush by a wide margin. As far as who's the best, on or off the list, I'm not even remotely qualified to try an answer. __________________ "I say I can't but I really mean I won't."

04-08-2009, 12:36 PM	#745 (permalink)
ixtlan22 Loves Jan Terri Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 184	OK I'd like to say a few things. First of all I'm sick of "who's the best" anythings in music. What is the competition? Seriously? It's the most circular pointless discussion. At the end of the day Meg White who you've all heard of is raking in checks for her playing because it fits their wack ass tunes but Ted Poor who I'm willing to bet no one here has heard of, yet is absolutely one of, if not the most, proficient and musical drummer alive, struggles to eat while playing a gig every night in NYC. What it comes down to is who is the best for what they do? John Bonham is the best drummer. For Led Zeppelin. Keith Moon is the best drummer. For The Who. Ginger Baker is the best drummer. For Cream. Neil Peart is the best drummer. For Rush. And finally you guessed it, Danny Carey is the best drummer.... for Tool. There is good reason all these bands are epicly famous. They had the right person for their own unique sound. Someone here said "Neil Peart plays too many fills..." well, in just about every city in the country 25,000 people will pay 80 bucks just to see Neil Peart play too many fills. Just like the same number will pay whatever to see Meg White play sloppy as ** and probably wouldn't have it any other way. I'm guilty of this too because I posted on this page earlier... but for anyone to say that they know who the best drummer is, is to say that they are an authority on all of music, defining what is good and what is bad, and then what a good drummer ought to be to suit that. We can talk about our opinions but the tone of authority and certainty people argue with on this page is hilarious. The beauty of music is that its not competitive and the more people argue about "who the best drummer" is, the more bull** technique will overtake musical honesty. Look at Ringo. (And yes I know John and Paul played on a bunch of tunes but still...) The dude was super sloppy and his chops were non-existent. But his choices were immaculate. And he is part of the reason The Beatles are what they are and will always be remembered as. Not to mention the entire generation of drummers he inspired. So after all that I apologize because there is plenty of intelligent discussion going on here... The point I'm trying to make is just that I think the notion of a "best" drummer or guitar player or whatever existing is ridiculous and I know we can humbly talk about what we like and dislike about our favorite musicians without that assumption. __________________ "Peculiar travel suggestions are dancing lessons from God." -Bockonon-

04-12-2009, 05:55 PM	#749 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Yeah, I guess all this talk of best drummer and whatnot makes it all seem like a sport when its actually more about art... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

04-11-2009, 12:56 PM	#747 (permalink)
The Vintage Sound Groupie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: West Virginia Posts: 10	Well, my favorite drummer, and my pick for best drummer, happens to be Keith Moon! Anyone could argue that Keith isn't the best off all time...but it cannot be denied he was a huge influence for all rock drummers today!!! I would also like to say that Gene Krupa is an amazing drummer! He was very much responsible for tunable drumheads, he invented the rim shot, and many other things dealing with drums.