At what time? I don't recall anyone using the term "post-grunge" back in '91 when Live's first album came out. I mean "grunge" was just barely entering the popular vernacular then, "post-grunge" was still a few years away.

I will take a wild guess and suggest around '93 maybe?

Haha - I can definitely confirm that there was no such idea as 'post-grunge' in 1991. You would be hard pressed to find a fan (that is, anybody who was not a professional rock critic) who would even acknowledge the term 'grunge' at the time. I was in high school, loved Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins, disliked Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and found the Screaming Trees and Mudhoney sort of interesting. I would have been surprised to hear all these bands lumped together. They were just bands

Grunge was more of a fashion than a music genre when it was first coming out. Did the band members wear flannel? Grunge. Only after did bands boil it down to one particular sound.

Actually, besides Smashing Pumpkins, I think every band I mentioned publically wore flannel shirts.

Yeah, that's why they were eventually lumped together. Even Billy wore some flannel on occasion around Gish era. Soundgarden and AIC both sounded more metal-esque to me.

I downloaded Badmotorfinger last week and really liked it. I judged this band wrongly.

Yes! I'm glad to hear this. I knew I wasn't crazy. Nothing like Jesus Christ Pose to make me wish I had a manly falsetto.

Referring to early to mid part of the 90`s in general here and not 91. I`d hazard a guess as it becoming mainstream around 1994 to 1995 especially with the Foo Fighters debut (Providing a strong link with Nirvana here) Some of the post-grunge acts, may well have had their debut albums out before this though, given the fact that genre labels often come much later, hence the previous reference to Live. Looking on wiki for example, their second album "Throwing Copper" is labelled as post-grunge amongst other things, it could well be a case of the band being made to fit the label here.

gotta say in regards to both Live and the Smashing Pumpkins, both groups (especially the Pumpkins) aren't grunge at all but probably the clearest examples of 'alternative' rock.

also - just because someone posted some absurd revisionist claim on wikipedia doesn't somehow make it fact. the Throwing Copper album came out in 1994, no one was using the term post grunge - hell, Cobain's body hadn't even finished cooling down yet. i mean Superunknown came out that same year is that one 'post'-grunge too?


but going back to the band itself. has anyone heard anything at all about the reunion besides the Nude Dragons show back in April and headlining Lollapalooza? seems like a rather futile reunion if they aren't going to do anything besides release a couple of youtube clips.

really though, i've been waiting 13 years. WHERE THE HELL IS B-SIDES?!?!?!!!?