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Old 06-29-2009, 04:31 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Anybody excited for the new album? In fact, anybody hear word of a release date?
i think i read oct... maybe sept? i dont remember, dont remember where i read it either so i guess thats not very helpful, but whatever
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't know why this band isn't more popular on MB, it's the best hardcore band I've ever heard.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I don't know why this band isn't more popular on MB, it's the best hardcore band I've ever heard.
I think I have their stuff, but I don't really listen to hardcore music :/

Just in case...

I know I listened to an album or two before, like last year maybe...
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Old 06-24-2011, 06:43 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Thanks to a recent recommendation on here I listened to a couple of albums by this band. "Jane Doe" is a classic and "You Fail Me" is another great album as well.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Default Converge's "Jane Doe"

Released in 2001, this album was trend setting for the decade, it could be representitive of the huge influence "metalcore" had from 2000-2005, and also the branches the genre took into all other forms of metal from 2005-2010. From progressive metal, to sludge, and to the blends in between during the rise of popularity during the decade of 2000-2010, all seems to have progressed from Converge's "Jane Doe".

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1. Hell To Pay
2. Homewrecker
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I wish I could say it was a worthless album, but it spawned so many retarded offspring I can't do that. It's an idiotic album, a poorly conceived album, and a poorly executed album, but it's not worthless. Why you put metalcore in quotes, however, is beyond me - they're a metalcore band. Yeah, the genre has become nearly universally derided, but this doesn't give fans an excuse to pretend the Converge and other bands in the genre are anything but metalcore.
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I wish I could say it was a worthless album, but it spawned so many retarded offspring I can't do that. It's an idiotic album, a poorly conceived album, and a poorly executed album, but it's not worthless. Why you put metalcore in quotes, however, is beyond me - they're a metalcore band. Yeah, the genre has become nearly universally derided, but this doesn't give fans an excuse to pretend the Converge and other bands in the genre are anything but metalcore.
It's a genius album, incredibly emotional, cathartic, and, immersive. If you don't care for it that's fine, but to say that it's poorly conceived and executed just makes you look like petty. Like the way an old metalhead would look dissing on Wilco or Elliot Smith for being pussy music.
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The **** kind of ju-jitsu is that? If I don't agree an album is well executed and conceived I'm being petty? Seriously?
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The **** kind of ju-jitsu is that? If I don't agree an album is well executed and conceived I'm being petty? Seriously?
Again if it's not your thing that's fine, that level of aggression and dissonance definitely isn't for everyone. however saying that about essentially THE landmark album of a genre in the same paragraph where you deride the entire genre makes it pretty clear that you're dismissing the album on what you're tastes are, not on any real flaw with the album. The album does exactly what they set out to do, and it does it extremely well.
I will admit that perhaps petty was a bad choice of wording but I stand by the metaphor.
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Again if it's not your thing that's fine, that level of aggression and dissonance definitely isn't for everyone. however saying that about essentially THE landmark album of a genre in the same paragraph where you deride the entire genre makes it pretty clear that you're dismissing the album on what you're tastes are, not on any real flaw with the album. The album does exactly what they set out to do, and it does it extremely well.

****, I'm sorry - I was under the misunderstanding that on a site dedicated to discussing music, I could pretend that - you know - **** that offended my sense of good taste could be considered flawed, whereas **** that I liked could be considered good.

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Regarding the nonsense about "THE landmark album of a genre" - really? I'm supposed to pretend something is quality, regardless of how I feel about it, because it's popular with a particular group of people?
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