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slityourthroat 05-19-2004 05:37 PM

Screaming
 
hey im starting up a band with some of my friends, and were lookin to be metal/rapcore kinda stuff like slipknot. but my point is, does anyone have any tips on how to scream like that? plz help

rh2097 05-01-2005 03:11 PM

Screaming Techniques.
 
Does anyone have any good screaming techniques. I am fairly good as singing, I am just not sure on screaming, It always sounds horrible when I do it. I occassionally get a good scream out, but then I can't quickly dodge back to singing. I am looking for a more high pitched scream, not a deep scream. But both are fine, any tips?

itchytasty 05-01-2005 03:34 PM

tips that i have picked up:

if you can, take some singing lessons. if not to learn how to sing in tune, then to get a grasp of proper breathing techniques to get more control and projection out of your voice... and hopefully avoid giving yourself a migrane after every gig.

practice. scream loud, then not so loud....move your vocal cords around...control them. try screaming with your tounge in different parts of your mouth, that might make a different sound... maybe try and find a high pitch and low pitch screams, learn how to control that sound as well. try really opening your throat up when you yell - like you're yawning.

but don't force sound out, it can be too big of a strain on your vocal chords.

but practice is really the key to getting better at screaming.


drinking water can also help.

SEVRINLEADER 05-01-2005 09:21 PM

Yea I used to have the screaming down great. Then I went to a concert (the guys in my sig) and ripped the crap out of something. My voice has never been the same. Its been about 5 months now. I've given up on the screams.

TheBig3 05-01-2005 10:35 PM

too many bands scream, its novelty has worn, just practice your writing, sometimes the right phrasing can be far more cutting than monosylabic words screamed through 11 level amps.

(I know this anti-topic, but im trying to offer solace to those of us whose screams leave us voiceless for days)

pastor of muppets 05-02-2005 02:26 AM

big3 do u ever hav anything positive to say?

riseagainstrocks 05-02-2005 10:00 AM

just do it. alot. you need to build up vocal strength. also in order to go higher or lower practice just bottoming out your voice.

dead_ringer 06-24-2005 07:00 AM

just shout

Fenixpunk 06-24-2005 09:02 AM

turn all the amps up and tell your drummer to bang the **** out of the drums. Turn down the vocals just enough so you have to scream to be heard. That'll do it. After a few days practicing like that, youre vocal chords will be stronger than ever. Eventually you wont even need a PA.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 06-24-2005 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pastor of muppets
big3 do u ever hav anything positive to say?

no

David Frost 06-24-2005 11:04 PM

****ing belt it and put emotion into it. thats all you need to do. no matter what comes out as long as you are putting ass behind it, it should be cool.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 06-25-2005 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by David Frost
****ing belt it and put emotion into it. thats all you need to do. no matter what comes out as long as you are putting ass behind it, it should be cool.

make sure your voice doesnt crack though.....thatll be embarrassing.

Barnard17 06-25-2005 08:50 AM

Build your lung capacity as much as possible with simple breathing exercises - Serj from SOAD can sing for an unnervingly large amount of time. If you get into a face melting scream that doesn't die after the first 5 seconds because you're running out of air, it has a much better effect than you ending up spluttering on stage. Work on keeping your vocal chords open if you're doing a gutteral scream and sing from the diaphragm, because otherwise your voice is gonna hurt. If you're gonna try a high pitched scream, don't strain your throat. Again sing with the diaphragm not your throat, or you're gonna be doing some hurting. If you can reach the pitch you want straight away, slowly work your way to it by starting withing easy range and working up.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
(I know this anti-topic, but im trying to offer solace to those of us whose screams leave us voiceless for days)

Then why not try giving advice as to how to scream without being voiceless, rather than just bashing?

phoenixflames 06-25-2005 09:08 AM

I use the throat technique when I scream (there is a right and a wrong way to do it). It gives you more of a gavally sound. As far as pitch goes, that really depends alot on on how you have your tounge, chest, and mouth positioned. Just try different things till you get the sound you want. Also, not that you want to be a rip-off, but if you have a band that you like how they scream, try to scream along with them. May take some time, but it will help you get towards your goal.

Annalysia 06-25-2005 06:58 PM

screaming techniques-

take in as much air as you can so you don't get lightheaded-i tend to get kinda dizzy if i don't get enough. for me personally, a beer seems to help me before i sing, but especially if i'm belting. i can't think of much else.

Krosstika 06-25-2005 07:16 PM

Please tho whatever you do dont try and become another Dani Filth coz him and his screaming vocals along with his band 'Cradle Of Filth' are awful

shandapanda 06-26-2005 02:18 PM

scream from the heart.......*makes a boyband hand gesture*

Dezzy 06-26-2005 02:34 PM

Some good points there. I did a bit of drama training many moons ago, and we were taught to concentrate bringing sounds from the centre ie, the belly. This can be done as mentioned already with breathing excercises, also do vocal warm ups prior to performance. Don't put to much into vocal warm ups prior to gig. Save something for the main performance. Gargleing with salt water on a daily basis is recommended for all vocalists.
Here is a good vocal warm up/tongue twister you could try.

Theophilus Thistle the succesful thistle sifter, when sifting a sieve full of unsifted thistles thrust three thousand thistles through the thick of his thumb.

riseagainstrocks 07-02-2005 08:18 AM

also, no soda before a show. or milk. you have to do the same preparation as with singing.

Electric Ocean 07-02-2005 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
also, no soda before a show. or milk. you have to do the same preparation as with singing.

Milk can be good for proctecting your vocal cords as it builds up mucus around then and minimizes damage. It'll also screw up your pitch if you're singing aswell though and thats the problem.

phoenixflames 07-03-2005 07:42 AM

^ Milk can definatly help you have a more gravely sound, but if you sing as well as scream, you are gonna sound terriable. Its better in the long run to just stay away from it.

Electric Ocean 07-03-2005 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenixflames
^ Milk can definatly help you have a more gravely sound, but if you sing as well as scream, you are gonna sound terriable. Its better in the long run to just stay away from it.

Yeah thats what I meant basically.

Apparently drinking lots of water and eating some honey can also protect your vocal cords but not screw with your pitch too much.

phoenixflames 07-03-2005 08:02 AM

^ I might have to try that. I also hear peppermint tea helps too??

Guitaristofhammett 12-13-2009 04:14 PM

Slipknot really isnt a screamo band or any genre that really uses screaming. To get close to them sing low. No screaming is involved for there songs. Just saying that.

Guns 12-16-2009 07:56 PM

Couldn't help you sir, but good luck.

michelle_elle 12-26-2009 01:13 PM

screaming
 
As the others said - first of all, do not strain your vocal chords. It could ruin your voice FOR GOOD.
"Good" screamings don't make any damage, they come from the "inside" rather then the "outside". I wish I could explain it better - you should look for the method that Chris Cornell uses, it's a mixed head & chest voice that creates the unique scream

omgsuicide 12-30-2009 02:35 PM

As a new member with no attachment to anyone, take my advice:

The vocals on anything like Slipknot or ICP is anything but good. It is completely talentless.

Start a band with some ambition to be something that someone will listen to.

As for needing tips on how to scream a certain way, open your mouth and scream.

People who need help with screaming must have a bit of a learning disability.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-30-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by omgsuicide (Post 791950)

As for needing tips on how to scream a certain way, open your mouth and scream.

People who need help with screaming must have a bit of a learning disability.

Yeah, how dare people want vocal training to want to keep their voice in top condition with it maybe being their livelyhood or at least something they love doing and all.

What a bunch of fucking retards they are.

:rolleyes:

bardonodude 12-30-2009 03:29 PM

yeah some people just need to learn how to scream properly. I used to scream my lungs out and thats def not what you're supposed to do. lets see, old singer of see you next tuesday, singer of avenged sevenfold, and singer of jeromes dream all lost their voices

Alfred 12-30-2009 05:04 PM

I hear that Jerome's Dream guy used to cough up blood from all his screaming. That's brutal stuff.

Unrelenting 12-30-2009 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitaristofhammett (Post 783956)
Slipknot really isnt a screamo band or any genre that really uses screaming. To get close to them sing low. No screaming is involved for there songs. Just saying that.

not a big slipknot fan, but yes they do scream

RockInsanity 01-01-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEVRINLEADER (Post 61863)
Yea I used to have the screaming down great. Then I went to a concert (the guys in my sig) and ripped the crap out of something. My voice has never been the same. Its been about 5 months now. I've given up on the screams.

Man, that sucks. Sorry to hear that. Did you go to the doc?

RockInsanity 01-01-2010 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=phoenixflames;88586]^ Milk can definatly help you have a more gravely sound QUOTE]

...And help you cut the cheese.

RockInsanity 01-01-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelle_elle (Post 790238)
As the others said - first of all, do not strain your vocal chords. It could ruin your voice FOR GOOD.
"Good" screamings don't make any damage, they come from the "inside" rather then the "outside". I wish I could explain it better - you should look for the method that Chris Cornell uses, it's a mixed head & chest voice that creates the unique scream

Chris Cornell has a ****ing amazing scream. His range is rediculous. Good points.

HingeRH 01-11-2010 02:19 PM

Turn down the amps so you have to scream louder, that will surely help you. To ruin your voice. Important thing is first learn to sing in tune, then start bit by bit to rough up your voice at the same time you sing. Later on you can move straight to tough rasp sound or even screaming. But keeping your voice steady while screaming high pitches is even harder than singing with clear, or with a bit rasped voice. Practise is they key!


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