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Old 04-05-2006, 09:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kraut Rock >> Post-Rock anyway.
Nah...I think they are about equal.

I like Kraftwerk, Tangerine and Can...Some Neu!...Though i find myself liking more post rock bands like Sigur Ros and GY!BE.
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nah...I think they are about equal.

I like Kraftwerk, Tangerine and Can...Some Neu!...Though i find myself liking more post rock bands like Sigur Ros and GY!BE.
Neu! and Can in particular were much more interesting, original, and exciting than most of these post-rock bands. Bands like Godspeed and Mogwai are basically just copying what Kraut-rockers were doing more than thirty years ago except without the driving rhythm that made Kraftwerk, Neu!, and Can so great. Bands like Mogwai shift the emphasis to electric guitar, which works for a while, but lacks the hypnotic drive that allowed you to appreciate a ten minute Neu! song. Godspeed throws in as many different sounds they can and then just abuse the loud/soft dynamic as much as they can, which makes for some great atmospheric music, but does start to get old after a while. Then bands like Explosions add a raw edge that hints more at metal, but lack a great deal of the experimentation that made Kraut rock so wonderful and different. Neu! could keep you hooked on a ten minute song with a simple drumbeat and bassline on the sole basis of its dreamy, hypnotic nature. And when they started getting bored with that, they might start free noise experimentations and all kinds of weird sound mixing to create bizarre and wildly new (at the time) soundscapes. Can was one of the most experimental bands of all time, creating songs that were both extremely listenable and catchy as well as unlike anything you'd ever heard before. Kraftwerk gets a lot of mention, but they basically just copied Neu! and went synth-crazy.

In any case, that's just my rambling explanation of why I prefer Kraut rock.
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Old 04-10-2006, 03:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Neu! and Can in particular were much more interesting, original, and exciting than most of these post-rock bands. Bands like Godspeed and Mogwai are basically just copying what Kraut-rockers were doing more than thirty years ago except without the driving rhythm that made Kraftwerk, Neu!, and Can so great. Bands like Mogwai shift the emphasis to electric guitar, which works for a while, but lacks the hypnotic drive that allowed you to appreciate a ten minute Neu! song. Godspeed throws in as many different sounds they can and then just abuse the loud/soft dynamic as much as they can, which makes for some great atmospheric music, but does start to get old after a while. Then bands like Explosions add a raw edge that hints more at metal, but lack a great deal of the experimentation that made Kraut rock so wonderful and different. Neu! could keep you hooked on a ten minute song with a simple drumbeat and bassline on the sole basis of its dreamy, hypnotic nature. And when they started getting bored with that, they might start free noise experimentations and all kinds of weird sound mixing to create bizarre and wildly new (at the time) soundscapes. Can was one of the most experimental bands of all time, creating songs that were both extremely listenable and catchy as well as unlike anything you'd ever heard before. Kraftwerk gets a lot of mention, but they basically just copied Neu! and went synth-crazy.

In any case, that's just my rambling explanation of why I prefer Kraut rock.
Post rock ripping off Krautrock?

I certainly dont hear it.

I also dont hear any similarites between bands like Sigur Ros and Kraftwerk.

I just happen to prefer Sigur Ros over any krautrock band, but thats just me.
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Kraftwerk are the definition of cool.
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I love Sigur Ros, and Explosions in The Sky, but I don't really compare them because they play different styles of post-rock. Sigur Ros is more dreamy, and hypnotic, while EitS are more upbeat and energetic. My all time favorite EitS song is Song For Our Fathers, and I cannot differentiate between tracks on () but the entire album blows me away. Like I said, I really cannot compare the two.
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they're big but its all about the 2nd album now, they've gotta prove it wasn't a fluke
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In my opinion, having listened to their whole album, only two songs are good on it. It seemed a shame to be honest, and I left my Stereo with disappointment. I think they could of done so much better, but really they're mostly just cover songs. Perhaps they should of stuck with the elements of music that they put in `I bet you look good on the dance floor`, because, for me, that's the best song on their album.
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Cover songs? What? And I bet you look good on the dancefloor, in my opinion, is a bad song. It pales in comparison to what the rest of this album has to offer.
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Cover songs? What? And I bet you look good on the dancefloor, in my opinion, is a bad song. It pales in comparison to what the rest of this album has to offer.
I think what he means by cover songs is that they're just ripping off other bands, and there's not much original about them.
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She* I didn't mean cover songs, I meant tracks which fill in the album. I meant fillers :-)) It's just my opinion.
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