Marilyn Manson

neardeathexperience · 07-13-2013, 08:38 PM

When Manson started out kids were not even buying songs one at a time from "I-Tunes " so the point that I'm trying to make is he is over. A fad which spawned a bunch of Goth kids wandering around wearing anything as long as it was "black". He has little if any influence on today's youth. What does is rap music on numerous levels. Oh and for the youth of today who are weak minded and can be swayed easily videos do influence them.....

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-13-2013, 08:44 PM

marlyn manson to me........ let me explain this in the best wat

ok so first off marilyn manson is a DECENT aka PRETTY GOOD act. i always thought 'hey he makes a few good tunes' but nothing mind blowin or crazy. on the contrare nothing terrible. and that's really where he was IMO. and then you know following huge media events, columbine comes to mind), i feel like he became over rated because there was so many wannabe edgy and cool idiots who thought he was amazing when relly they felt he was decent but their personal desire to be edgy and cool overcame them. so he became a little over rated. like 50 cent, he is a fantastic markerter. he has marketed himself as well as anybody with his talent level. establishing an identity and ridin with it but i cant help but feel the internet over rates him. hes a guy who made a few pretty good tunes

KMS · 07-13-2013, 11:56 PM

^ It's not always just about the music though. A music experience is a subjective thing anyway, so if his imagery and 'vibe' spurred a bunch of people to get it into further, it's as legit as anything else.

I wouldn't compare it on any level with 50 cent. A lot of Manson's stuff is very subpar, but some very real and full of a lot of feeling and energy. 50's plastic all the way.

Live shows 90s through the early 2000s were pretty great as well. Well worth attending.

#000000 · 07-14-2013, 12:51 AM

Marilyn Manson to me is one of those artists that are widely known for something but the thing they used to do hasn't aged well. There was so much hype and controversy around him, sometimes because of things he had nothing to do with and other times because of his antics, but his music doesn't fully live up to it. I think he's one of those "you had to be there to get it" things. It just hasn't held up well.

His main problem is that he won't just call it quits and let it go. Most of antics aren't that shocking anymore, when he makes the news it's always over trying hard to get attention by insulting other celebrities or being downright distasteful. If he had just retired when his popularity began to drop he could be much more beloved now, if nothing else than just for the nostalgia factor.

I don't think that most people hate him, just that the general public doesn't quite notice him that much anymore.

Personally, his music bores me.

KMS · 07-14-2013, 04:01 AM

He definitely should have retired when the buzz waned. The thing is -- how can you shock the public anymore? You have to go into really despicable territory to shock this desensitized generation.

#000000 · 07-14-2013, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KMS

He definitely should have retired when the buzz waned. The thing is -- how can you shock the public anymore? You have to go into really despicable territory to shock this desensitized generation.

That's exactly my point... his persona hasn't aged well. He should have retired or maybe tried to keep up with his original fans by changing his act. As it is he keeps trying to be down with the times but ends up being a caricature of himself. Most people I know just think he's weird with maybe a couple of songs that they like, if that. Aside from teenagers who think he's edgy or something.

I don't think that we're a desensitized generation. What I do think is that he keeps trying to do what he did in the beginning even though things stop being shocking after the first time you've done them. He hasn't changed his act to appeal more to a younger set of listeners and hasn't tried to mature a bit to keep up with his older fans. In my opinion he's also rather gimmicky, his musical is nothing that outstanding and his fame is more based on shocking 90s parents.

dukethenuke · 07-17-2013, 05:56 PM

I listen to some Gore core but Marilyn Manson scares the **** out of me.

Thinkofthechildren · 07-21-2013, 09:57 AM

Attention seeking twat.

MyBitchIsAJunkieXXX · 07-21-2013, 04:36 PM

Marilyn Manson was really good when they were the Spooky Kids and when he had Gidget, Pogo, Sara and Daisy. he really messed up getting rid of Gidget in my opinion. I like some of his newer stuff too. I have all of his albums, favorite is Portrait of an American Family.
MANSON FAN FOREVER

Music-Fanatic · 02-22-2015, 04:26 PM

Loved his music since I heard 'Tainted Love' back in 2002. I know he's not a great singer but I find his voice/music infectious. Thought i'd leave you all with a few of my favourite tracks from him...

12 years on for me (nearly 13), and he's still going strong. Got the majority of his albums from 1994 to present.

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MyBitchIsAJunkieXXX Groupie Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Fulton, NY Posts: 15	Marilyn Manson was really good when they were the Spooky Kids and when he had Gidget, Pogo, Sara and Daisy. he really messed up getting rid of Gidget in my opinion. I like some of his newer stuff too. I have all of his albums, favorite is Portrait of an American Family. MANSON FAN FOREVER __________________ Oh well whatever nevermind

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Music-Fanatic Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Jarrow/Newcastle UK Posts: 65	Marilyn Manson Loved his music since I heard 'Tainted Love' back in 2002. I know he's not a great singer but I find his voice/music infectious. Thought i'd leave you all with a few of my favourite tracks from him... 12 years on for me (nearly 13), and he's still going strong. Got the majority of his albums from 1994 to present.

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neardeathexperience Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 531	When Manson started out kids were not even buying songs one at a time from "I-Tunes " so the point that I'm trying to make is he is over. A fad which spawned a bunch of Goth kids wandering around wearing anything as long as it was "black". He has little if any influence on today's youth. What does is rap music on numerous levels. Oh and for the youth of today who are weak minded and can be swayed easily videos do influence them.....

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~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	marlyn manson to me........ let me explain this in the best wat ok so first off marilyn manson is a DECENT aka PRETTY GOOD act. i always thought 'hey he makes a few good tunes' but nothing mind blowin or crazy. on the contrare nothing terrible. and that's really where he was IMO. and then you know following huge media events, columbine comes to mind), i feel like he became over rated because there was so many wannabe edgy and cool idiots who thought he was amazing when relly they felt he was decent but their personal desire to be edgy and cool overcame them. so he became a little over rated. like 50 cent, he is a fantastic markerter. he has marketed himself as well as anybody with his talent level. establishing an identity and ridin with it but i cant help but feel the internet over rates him. hes a guy who made a few pretty good tunes

07-13-2013, 11:56 PM	#243 (permalink)
KMS Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 117	^ It's not always just about the music though. A music experience is a subjective thing anyway, so if his imagery and 'vibe' spurred a bunch of people to get it into further, it's as legit as anything else. I wouldn't compare it on any level with 50 cent. A lot of Manson's stuff is very subpar, but some very real and full of a lot of feeling and energy. 50's plastic all the way. Live shows 90s through the early 2000s were pretty great as well. Well worth attending.

07-14-2013, 12:51 AM	#244 (permalink)
#000000 Groupie Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 32	Marilyn Manson to me is one of those artists that are widely known for something but the thing they used to do hasn't aged well. There was so much hype and controversy around him, sometimes because of things he had nothing to do with and other times because of his antics, but his music doesn't fully live up to it. I think he's one of those "you had to be there to get it" things. It just hasn't held up well. His main problem is that he won't just call it quits and let it go. Most of antics aren't that shocking anymore, when he makes the news it's always over trying hard to get attention by insulting other celebrities or being downright distasteful. If he had just retired when his popularity began to drop he could be much more beloved now, if nothing else than just for the nostalgia factor. I don't think that most people hate him, just that the general public doesn't quite notice him that much anymore. Personally, his music bores me.

07-14-2013, 04:01 AM	#245 (permalink)
KMS Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 117	He definitely should have retired when the buzz waned. The thing is -- how can you shock the public anymore? You have to go into really despicable territory to shock this desensitized generation.

07-17-2013, 05:56 PM	#247 (permalink)
dukethenuke Groupie Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 13	I listen to some Gore core but Marilyn Manson scares the **** out of me.

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Thinkofthechildren Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 135	Attention seeking twat.