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lighterfight 09-26-2005 06:10 PM

because i do not jump on the" little richard" band wagon, you wanna label me racist?
let me tell ya' something boo-boo,before you nibble in the wrong pic-nik basket. being a pioneer gives no nothing as far as what rock n' roll music is or about. what does race have to do with rock n' roll? your a joke. a complete joke. i make one opinion and i get a label attached to me, why? because i don't let you change my opinion on a front man, screw you. STAND FOR SOMETHING AND QUIT BEING YOGI'S BI*cH . punk.

Fenixpunk 09-26-2005 06:13 PM

both of you need to calm down, its a differant of opinion, leave it at that.

boo boo 09-26-2005 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
because i do not jump on the" little richard" band wagon, you wanna label me racist?
let me tell ya' something boo-boo,before you nibble in the wrong pic-nik basket. being a pioneer gives no nothing as far as what rock n' roll music is or about. what does race have to do with rock n' roll? your a joke. a complete joke. i make one opinion and i get a label attached to me, why? because i don't let you change my opinion on a front man, screw you. STAND FOR SOMETHING AND QUIT BEING YOGI'S BI*cH . punk.

How many people jump on the Little Richard bandwagon as you call it?, how many people younger than 50 really give little richard enough credit?, what are you talking about?, What about the zeppelin bandwagon?, and the countless zep fanboys who try to convince everyone that they should be number 1 at everything?, even if they dont deserve it?

And what does race have to with rock n roll?, are you really that stupid?, rock n roll had everything to do with race in the 1950s, middle class white familys rejected it simply because the performers were african american, and it wasn't until Elvis that white audiances began to accept rock n roll and black rock n roll performers, rock n roll itself was primarly based on the blues, and well, who do you think started that?, the japanese?

lighterfight 09-26-2005 06:26 PM

what rock n' roll was born on does not give it credit to me in a rock n' roll poll.

boo boo 09-26-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
little richard would be lucky to make the top 100 of any rock n' roll poll. and if you think he's actually better than robert plant, i feel sorry for the whole lot of you. and there's about 90 more i can think of that's a hell of a lot better. he was mediocure then and rock n'roll would still be where it's at now no thanks to him. thanks to robert plant who for some ungodley reason is @ 13.

:rofl:

I have seen stupid posts before but man o man, this one takes the cake, not top 100 on any rock n roll list?, sheesh, how biased can you get?, you should also know that theres a slight difference between rock n roll and plain rock.

boo boo 09-26-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
what rock n' roll was born on does not give it credit to me in a rock n' roll poll.

How would you judge the greatest frontman in rock?, lemmie guess.

- Personal Preference.

lighterfight 09-26-2005 06:42 PM

i would judge by the stamp they left on rock n' roll. little richard left no stamp. many others have and you wanna give him a hall pass for what? your a joke and you kneed to listen to your rock n' roll and stop whatching your shows

lighterfight 09-26-2005 06:43 PM

i'm done with ya' say about me whatever you like

boo boo 09-26-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
i would judge by the stamp they left on rock n' roll. little richard left no stamp. many others have and you wanna give him a hall pass for what? your a joke and you kneed to listen to your rock n' roll and stop whatching your shows

I own all of zeppelins studio albums, heard a good deal of their live work and more some, i actualy prefer them to richard, hell im not really much of little richard fan at all, but im being objective here, you are not, you have given no reason for plant to be above richard, i would still like to hear one, and because hes in led freakin zeppelin just isn't going to cut it.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-26-2005 06:55 PM

Without looking at the list I bet you don`t have Robert Calvert from Hawkwind ;)

Which would be a shame because the guy was a total showman.

boo boo 09-26-2005 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Without looking at the list I bet you don`t have Robert Calvert from Hawkwind ;)

Which would be a shame because the guy was a total showman.

Dammit, knew i forgot someone, i tried not to leave out all the great prog frontman since most people do, will try to add him if i get to updating my list again.

sleepy jack 09-26-2005 08:29 PM

Darby Fucking Crash

MURDER JUNKIE 09-27-2005 05:25 AM

changed my mind, it is clearly GG ALLIN:bringit: :finger: :bringit:

sleepy jack 09-27-2005 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
changed my mind, it is clearly GG ALLIN:bringit: :finger: :bringit:

To bad his music sucked.


But thats not what makes a frontman great...


Sticking microphones up your ass is.

Fenixpunk 09-27-2005 03:19 PM

nobody could clear out a packed house as fast as GG, gotta give him credit for that.

lighterfight 09-27-2005 03:35 PM

If you have all zep's studio and most of their live work, do i really i mean reallyhave to give you a explanation on why i think robert plant is better? think about that for 1 second please. breaking down racial barriers and being a pioneer does not elevate someone to that kinda status it just doesn't. I have never been accused of being a racist in my life,dude you don't know me from adam's house cat and i have to explain myself to you. how about FU*K YOU. there's your explanation bi*ch. i can get a group of guys and be a pioneer of pissing off the St.Louis arch, it doesn't mean i'm the best at it and it doesn't give me a hall pass to be considerd in the top 10. rock n' roll like this thread evolves. realize that. because most consider led zeppelin to be overrated are just haters. you wanna change their legendary status? get in a band and make it happen you fuc*ing crybaby.

sleepy jack 09-27-2005 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
If you have all zep's studio and most of their live work, do i really i mean reallyhave to give you a explanation on why i think robert plant is better? think about that for 1 second please. breaking down racial barriers and being a pioneer does not elevate someone to that kinda status it just doesn't. I have never been accused of being a racist in my life,dude you don't know me from adam's house cat and i have to explain myself to you. how about FU*K YOU. there's your explanation bi*ch. i can get a group of guys and be a pioneer of pissing off the St.Louis arch, it doesn't mean i'm the best at it and it doesn't give me a hall pass to be considerd in the top 10. rock n' roll like this thread evolves. realize that. because most consider led zeppelin to be overrated are just haters. you wanna change their legendary status? get in a band and make it happen you fuc*ing crybaby.


I think led zep is overated.

Fenixpunk 09-27-2005 03:45 PM

^^ya, i think David Coverdale improved Robert Plants style.

lighterfight 09-27-2005 03:49 PM

here's my response________________.

MURDER JUNKIE 09-28-2005 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
To bad his music sucked.


But thats not what makes a frontman great...


Sticking microphones up your ass is.

CORRECT! and I completely agree with you about Led Zeppelin

Kempson 09-28-2005 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
How would you judge the greatest frontman in rock?, lemmie guess.

- Personal Preference.

And you had a go at the other guy for making a stupid post?

Kids, this statement is the epitome of stupid.

boo boo 09-28-2005 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kempson
And you had a go at the other guy for making a stupid post?

Kids, this statement is the epitome of stupid.

How so?, you don't think theres a way to define greatness other than by preference?, if so you would be poorly misinformed, my list isn't based on my preference or favorites, if it was Elvis wouldn't even be top 20, Brandon boyd would certainly not be below some of the people above him and yes dammit i would have robert plant above little richard, i based by list on a certain criteria, which was based explained by Urban and Rain dog on the first page, if you judge great frontman by Influence, Impact, Importance, Innovation, Their on stage talent, Charasma, Electricity, Character, Presence, etc, then Little Richard easly deserves to be above Robert Plant, that isn't my opinion, thats just the way it is.

boo boo 09-28-2005 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
If you have all zep's studio and most of their live work, do i really i mean reallyhave to give you a explanation on why i think robert plant is better? think about that for 1 second please. breaking down racial barriers and being a pioneer does not elevate someone to that kinda status it just doesn't. I have never been accused of being a racist in my life,dude you don't know me from adam's house cat and i have to explain myself to you. how about FU*K YOU. there's your explanation bi*ch. i can get a group of guys and be a pioneer of pissing off the St.Louis arch, it doesn't mean i'm the best at it and it doesn't give me a hall pass to be considerd in the top 10. rock n' roll like this thread evolves. realize that. because most consider led zeppelin to be overrated are just haters. you wanna change their legendary status? get in a band and make it happen you fuc*ing crybaby.

Im a crybaby?, you are the one whining and throwing lame insults around just because your hero isn't getting a hell of a lot more credit than he deserves, i know for a fact that Led Zeppelin is overrated, and they are one of my top 5 favorite bands, if you want me to get specifc on your ass then this is how i break it down by the criteria.

Impact - Little Richard, Plant may be in one of the biggest bands in the world, it dosent mean he takes impact, he dosent even deserve the most credit for Zeps sucess, that obviously goes to Page, like Urban said, richard broke racial bariers, helped innovate a little thing called rock n roll and set a whole new level for on stage performance.

Influence - Little Richard, Plant himself is influenced by him, where else do you think he got those screetching, oversexed falseto vocals from?

Innovation - Little Richard, What?, helping create rock n roll isn't innovation enough?

Importance - Little Richard, if he had never existed, it would have made a lot more of a difference than Plant never existing.

Overall Onstage Talent - Little Richard, better as both a singer and a overall performer, could tear that piano up in the meantime which is a bonus, Plant reached his peak onstage in the really early 70s, his vocals however has been shot to death since 76.

Charasma - Little Richard
Electricity - Little Richard
Character - Little Richard
Presence - Tie(im being generous today)

I crown little richard the victor, now...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/nyrab/apples.bmp

Josephine 09-28-2005 06:16 AM

Bob Dylan left school and the reason he wrote down in their yearbook was: "To follow Little Richard..."

boo boo 09-28-2005 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Josephine
Bob Dylan left school and the reason he wrote down in their yearbook was: "To follow Little Richard..."

:love:

Whats more important, infleuncing Bob Dylan or that guy from Whitesnake?, hmmm....

Josephine 09-28-2005 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
:love:

Whats more important, infleuncing Bob Dylan or that guy from Whitesnake?, hmmm....

*cough*

No need to answer, do I?

;)

lighterfight 09-28-2005 06:28 AM

Whitesnake? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahah

boo boo 09-28-2005 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighterfight
LAME INSULTS? Who's throwing around LAME INSULTS? you guy's and theses threadds man. You guy's are so fuc*ing quick to judge someone and slap a label on them just because their opinion's differ from yours.

Well lets see how this whole thing started, oh yeah, it started because you attacked my list and said it sucked and was a disgrace to rock n roll, and i considered that a insult directed towards me because that wasn't just some random list i made for the hell of it, i actualy put some thought into it, wheres your list buddy?, i haven't even been that agressive with you, i point out the stupid crap you say and try to remain civil on the matter, i haven't been calling you by any harsh insults, but you didn't hesitate to say **** you to me despite how uncalled for that would be now did you?, and saying Little Richard wasn't a pioneer of rock n roll is in itself a insult to little richard and rock n roll.


PS.And if you still doubt my devotion to all things Zeppelin, just look at my location. =)

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2005 11:19 AM

My top 20 of people Boo Boo didn`t pick ;)

1. Johnny Cash
2. Ian Curtis - Joy Division
3. Ian Brown - Stone Roses
4. Nick Cave - Bad Seeds/Birthday Party
5. Ian McCulloch - Echo & The Bunnymen
6. Eric Burdon - The Animals
7. Siouxie Sioux - Siouxie & The Banshees
8. Dr John
9. Jarvis C0cker - Pulp
10. Lemmy - Motorhead
11. Viv Stanshall - Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band
12. Ian Gillen - Deep Purple
13. Shaun Ryder - Happy Mondays
14. Mark E Smith - The Fall
15. Elvis Costello
16. Robert Smith - The Cure
17. Bobby Gillespie - Primal Scream
18. Syd Barrett - Pink Floyd
19. Ray Davies - The Kinks
20. George Clinton - Funkadelic/Parliament

boo boo 09-28-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
My top 20 of people Boo Boo didn`t pick ;)

1. Johnny Cash
2. Ian Curtis - Joy Division
3. Ian Brown - Stone Roses
4. Nick Cave - Bad Seeds/Birthday Party
5. Ian McCulloch - Echo & The Bunnymen
6. Eric Burdon - The Animals
7. Siouxie Sioux - Siouxie & The Banshees
8. Dr John
9. Jarvis C0cker - Pulp
10. Lemmy - Motorhead
11. Viv Stanshall - Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band
12. Ian Gillen - Deep Purple
13. Shaun Ryder - Happy Mondays
14. Mark E Smith - The Fall
15. Elvis Costello
16. Robert Smith - The Cure
17. Bobby Gillespie - Primal Scream
18. Syd Barrett - Pink Floyd
19. Ray Davies - The Kinks
20. George Clinton - Funkadelic/Parliament

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
55.Elvis Costello
59.Eric Burdon of The Animals
74.George Clinton of Parliament/Funkadelic
78.Ian Gillian of Deep Purple
86.Robert Smith of The Cure
91.Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd

;)


The reason i didn't add cash is because its a rock list and i consider cash country, though cash has also been classified as a rock n roll artist so he possibly could qualify, i will also consider the others you mentioned, anyone else you think i should add?

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2005 11:33 AM

Ahh I didn`t see you`d posted the other 50.

But those listed should have been in the top 50 anyway ;)

Fenixpunk 09-28-2005 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
The reason i didn't add cash is because its a rock list and i consider cash country,

i was also surprised Cash wasnt on the list, and after your reason i have to ask then how Bob Marley managed to make the list? (ill give you George Clinton, although technically he shouldng be on a rock list either)

Josephine 09-28-2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
My top 20 of people Boo Boo didn`t pick ;)

1. Johnny Cash
2. Ian Curtis - Joy Division
3. Ian Brown - Stone Roses
4. Nick Cave - Bad Seeds/Birthday Party
5. Ian McCulloch - Echo & The Bunnymen
6. Eric Burdon - The Animals
7. Siouxie Sioux - Siouxie & The Banshees
8. Dr John
9. Jarvis C0cker - Pulp
10. Lemmy - Motorhead
11. Viv Stanshall - Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band
12. Ian Gillen - Deep Purple
13. Shaun Ryder - Happy Mondays
14. Mark E Smith - The Fall
15. Elvis Costello
16. Robert Smith - The Cure
17. Bobby Gillespie - Primal Scream
18. Syd Barrett - Pink Floyd
19. Ray Davies - The Kinks
20. George Clinton - Funkadelic/Parliament

Indeed. I only disagree with Lemmy and Gillen...
But Elvis Costello? Yeah. Definitely...

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
(ill give you George Clinton, although technically he shouldng be on a rock list either)

Are you kidding? A lot of Funkadelic`s stuff would put some psychadelia bands to shame.Check out their Maggot Brain album , thats a lot more rock than funk.

Fenixpunk 09-28-2005 12:20 PM

hey i said ill accept it, but technically hes not a rock frontman. the new willie nelson cd is reggae, but that dont make him rasta

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2005 12:26 PM

Yeah but Funkadelic were a funk rock band , Willie Nelson isn`t a country rasta.

boo boo 09-28-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Are you kidding? A lot of Funkadelic`s stuff would put some psychadelia bands to shame.Check out their Maggot Brain album , thats a lot more rock than funk.

Clinton is every bit a rock frontman as James Brown.

Fenixpunk 09-28-2005 12:55 PM

i understand the Clinton= funk rock logic and wont get into James Brown making the list cuz i can see where he fits in too, and i even said i accepted Clinton being on the list, but the question i was asking was how Marley can make the list and not Cash?

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josephine
Indeed. I only disagree with Lemmy

:eek:

This friendship is over :(

boo boo 09-28-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
i understand the Clinton= funk rock logic and wont get into James Brown making the list cuz i can see where he fits in too, and i even said i accepted Clinton being on the list, but the question i was asking was how Marley can make the list and not Cash?

Because Country isn't a subgenre to rock, Funk and Reggae has its roots in Rock N Roll and R&B music, reggae and funk aren't any less rock than metal or prog in my opinion...I mean, can you really imagine someone putting putting Genesis in the same catagory as Buddy Holly?, or Pantera in the same catagory as Chuck Berry?, but those are still styles of rock right?, i hope you get my point.


PS.Speaking of chuck berry, im beginning to think that leaving him off was a bad idea, i probably will update it again. =(


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