Where have all the skinheads gone?

SBWNik · 04-21-2010, 09:02 AM

Boneheads aren't skins. They may look similar, but then so do mods and casuals, but it's an entirely different area of fashion - punk/oi based rather than anything related to the origins.

As for the rest - Trad and SHARP aren't different. SHARP was always a home for the traditional skin, but the SHARP badge was appropriated (legitimately) by a lot of third wave bands. If SHARP had been around in 79, then The Specials would have been a SHARP affiliated band too... you could argue that the 2-Tone scene was the roots of SHARP quite easily.
Homoskins... not a skinhead thing as such, more a fetish thing in the same way as leather boys are too. They're out there, some are involved on the traditional skinhead scene, but sexuality is unrelated to music tastes or fashion.

On a similar note to that about SHARP/trad, you've not included any reference to the skinhead revival of the late 70s/early 80s. There are a lot of skins around who prefer the 2-Tone and later ska sound, and these are generally anti-racist too.
'Generally' is a big word though, and I'd suspect there are as many racists in all parts of skinhead as there are in the wider world, but who just like the 'sound'.

oiboi · 05-15-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SBWNik

...to paraphrase Slaughter & The Dogs.

Off at a tangent a little here, and not strictly music orientated, but something thats bugged me for a while.
This may be a UK only observation, but to me ska seems to have lost its crowd. Look around at any gig you go to these days and the place is bouncing with skaters, punks, metalheads (whaaaaaaat???), wannabe surfers and assorted other 'types', but no sign of the traditional ska fan, the skinhead.
Sure, you stick a 60s ska legend on and you'll find them all dusting down the Fred Perrys and brogues, but face them with a new offbeat band and where the hell are they all hiding?
Has ska become a cross section thing, or has skinhead become so tainted with the racist brush that it is a no longer acceptable fashion statement?

The odd thing is that there are a lot of bands out there that still hold to the skinhead style on stage, but it's not picked up by their fans.... weird.

oi! i compleatly agree with ya on that,im a SHARP skinhead and i love ska and skinhead reggae...i wish there was more shows...as far as the new stuff...ahhh im not sure about.

oiboi · 05-15-2010, 07:55 PM

i agree

goodfoot · 05-16-2010, 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=oiboi;867647]oi! i compleatly agree with ya on that,im a SHARP skinhead and i love ska and skinhead reggae...i wish there was more shows...as far as the new stuff...ahhh im not sure about.[/QUOTE) Well documented my man...

SBWNik · 05-20-2010, 08:13 PM

And also here:

here

(That one currently running at 9 volumes, well worth the look)

And here's the web page for the label that last series came out on. You may notice a theme running down the banner ads

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04-21-2010, 09:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
SBWNik Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 67	Boneheads aren't skins. They may look similar, but then so do mods and casuals, but it's an entirely different area of fashion - punk/oi based rather than anything related to the origins. As for the rest - Trad and SHARP aren't different. SHARP was always a home for the traditional skin, but the SHARP badge was appropriated (legitimately) by a lot of third wave bands. If SHARP had been around in 79, then The Specials would have been a SHARP affiliated band too... you could argue that the 2-Tone scene was the roots of SHARP quite easily. Homoskins... not a skinhead thing as such, more a fetish thing in the same way as leather boys are too. They're out there, some are involved on the traditional skinhead scene, but sexuality is unrelated to music tastes or fashion. On a similar note to that about SHARP/trad, you've not included any reference to the skinhead revival of the late 70s/early 80s. There are a lot of skins around who prefer the 2-Tone and later ska sound, and these are generally anti-racist too. 'Generally' is a big word though, and I'd suspect there are as many racists in all parts of skinhead as there are in the wider world, but who just like the 'sound'.

05-15-2010, 07:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
oiboi Groupie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2	i agree

05-16-2010, 01:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
goodfoot Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: scotland Posts: 408	[QUOTE=oiboi;867647]oi! i compleatly agree with ya on that,im a SHARP skinhead and i love ska and skinhead reggae...i wish there was more shows...as far as the new stuff...ahhh im not sure about.[/QUOTE) Well documented my man...

05-20-2010, 08:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
SBWNik Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 67	And also here: here (That one currently running at 9 volumes, well worth the look) And here's the web page for the label that last series came out on. You may notice a theme running down the banner ads Mad Butcher Records: latest news