Dub Music Thread (techno, country, dance, bass, funk)

Gavin B. · 01-28-2009, 08:15 AM

What is dub music?

The word 'dub' today is used to describe a genre of music that consists predominantly of instrumental re-mixes of existing recordings. These re-mixes radically manipulate and reshape the recording through the use of sound effects. The production and mixing process is not used just to replicate the live performance of the recording artist, but audio effects and studio 'trickery' are seen as an integral part of the music. The roots of dub can be traced back to Jamaica in the late 1960s, where it is widely accepted that Osbourne Ruddock (aka King Tubby) pioneered the style Ruddock turned the mixing desk into an instrument, with the deejay or mixer playing the role of the artist or performer. These early dub examples can be looked upon as the prelude to many dance and pop music genres.

Dub takes its name from the “dub plates” that were cut as instrumental B-sides to the hit ska, rocksteady, and–later–reggae singles of ’60s Jamaica. Producers routinely dropped vocal and rhythm tracks in and out of mixes to test sound levels.

The dub sound–rhythms, bass lines, mixing sensibilities, and vibe is experiencing a massive resurgence that is stretching across contemporary music, from the bass-heavy trip-hop of Massive Attack and Portishead to new instrumental post-rock bands such as Tortoise to the manic, cut-time beats and subsonic rumble of U.K. jungle and even into some punk bands, such as Fugazi. Meanwhile, producers and deejays as Bill Laswell, Tricky, the Orb, Mad Professor, Adrian Sherwood, Dubmatrix, Thievery Corporation, Blackbeard, Peter Kruder and Richard Dorfmeister and others continue to push toward the 21st century and are taking dub along with them.

Gavin B. · 01-28-2009, 08:31 AM

This index is intended to be a work in progress. Eventually [/URL]I'd like to see a one or two sentence description of each group which would include the nation of origin, time era, the names of a couple of good cuts, and the sub genre of dub for each artist. I also want to include a link for each artist where the reader can listen to examples of each artist's work... I'll probably use the All Music Guide for guide for many of my blubs and musical links.

If you use an excerpt from All Music Guide please acknowledge them or any other source. The free use laws governing copyrighted material in the USA allows 150 word passages or less, provided you acknowlege the source. I'm not sure what the UK free use laws are but I imagine they're similar to the USA, since nearly every enforceble copyright is held by a global corporation. All Music Guide actually encourages free usage within legal limitations provided you acknowledge them as a source.

This is by all means a collective enterprise and forum members should feel free to cut and paste the index and add artists, blubs and links to the index in the manner of the Wickipedia collaborative method of participation. If it's okay with Jackhammer I'd like him to assist me on editing the entries on the list for format, content and grammar. When you complete an entry use the [B] to highlight the artist name and add a space between your entry and the next entry. I wrote the first entry for 10 Ft. Ganga Plant as an example of format style I'd like to use.

The only rule of thumb is that all new artists posted must have recorded works within the genre of dub. Non-reggae artists can be included if they have a significant body of work using dub studio techniques.

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10 Foot Ganja Plant-No other American band has shown as much dedication to preserving the spirit of 1970s roots reggae as the mysterious 10 Ft. Ganja Plant, a group that deliberately keeps its lineup shrouded in a cloud of pungent smoke (though it's an open secret that the band shares several members in common with the Ithaca, NY-based roots collective John Brown's Body). Source- Recommended Album:Midnight Landing ROIR Records (2003) Source: All Music Guide

A

African Head Charge-Led by percussionist Bonjo I, African Head Charge formed in the early '80s and has released seven albums with a shifting lineup that also includes Prisoner, Crocodile, Junior Moses and Sunny Akpan. The band works in the same dub psychedelia territory as Adrian Sherwood's work, which isn't surprising since most of African Head Charge's albums have been released through — and produced by — Sherwood and his On-U Sound label. Recommended Albums: In Pursuit of the Shashamane Land Restless Records (1994) and Songs of Praise On U-Sound Records (1991) Source: All Music Guide

The Aggrovators A key session band from the mid-'70s. Often employed by producer Bunny "Striker" Lee, the Aggrovators had interchangeable personnel with the Revolutionaries and both bands cut the majority of their sides at the legendary Channel One Studios. Recommended Album: Agrogrovators Meet the Revolutionaries at Channel One. Culture Press (1998) Source- All Music Guide

Augustus Clarke- One of the great dancehall and reggae producers, Gussie Clarke has been a successful Jamaican producer since the early '70s, when he helmed Big Youth's debut, Screaming Target, and the 1973 debut from I Roy. More known in Britain than in America, many of Clarke's early records were issued there by the Trojan label and as early as 1975 a cult fan base began to emerge around Gussie's dub sound. Recommended Album: Ram Dancehall Mango Records (1990) Source-All Music Guide.

Augustus Pablo - As any business person will tell you, the way to success is through the discovery of a niche or a previously unexploited market. Still, few business people, and even fewer musicians, would have believed that there was a market for the sound of the melodica. What next, they would have s******ed, a kazoo? Yet Augustus Pablo would take this child's toy and launch a revolution in Jamaican music. Not only was Pablo's melodica unique, it would sweep the entire island's scene and become an integral part of the music of the era. Recommend Albums: East of the River Nile Message Records (1977) & Rockers Meet King Tubby in a Fire House Yard Records (1980). Source AMG

Asian Dub Foundation - Asian Dub Foundation formed in 1993 as an outgrowth of the documentary Identical Beat, a film shot at London's Farringdon Community Music House, the site of a series of summer workshops designed to teach Asian children the essentials of music technology. In charge of the workshops were tutor Aniruddha Das and youth worker John Pandit, also a noted DJ; with one of their students, a 15-year-old Bengali rapper named Deedar Zaman, they soon formed a sound system which they called the Asian Dub Foundation. Recommended Albums- : Rafi's Revenge Slash Records (1998) & Community Music FFRR Records (2000) Source AMG

B

Bad Brains- By melding punk with reggae, Bad Brains became one of the definitive American hardcore punk groups of the early '80s. The BB have experimented in dub reggae projects. Recommended Album: I and I Survived (Dub) Reggae Lounge Records (2002). Source:AMG

Basque Dub Foundation - The Basque Dub Foundation started in the early 90s as studio project by Iñaki Yarritu, a London based reggae musician originally from the Basque Country (northern Spain). Iñaki moved into music production in the late 80's having being previously involved in Reggae since the late 70s as a radio DJ, journalist and promoter. In their early days BDF toured (as a sound system) supporting Mad Professor in the first ever Dub sessions to take place in Spain. Recommended Album: BDF Meets Loud & Lone Brixton Records (2005) Source: Wikipedia

The Beat (aka the English Beat)
Beats International
Bedouin Soundclash
Blackbeard (aka Dennis Bovell)
Bonobos
Brain Damage Sound System
The Bug
Burning Spear
Dennis Bovell
Glen Brown
The Black Seeds
The Bug
Black Uhuru

C

Culver City Dub Collective

D

De Facto
Digital Mystikz
The Drastics
Dreadzone
Dry & Heavy
Dub Band (Linton Kwesi Johnson)
Dub Incorporation
Dubmatrix
Dub Pistols
Dub Trio
Dub Wiser
Dub Syndicate
Dubware
Dubtribe

E

Easy Star All-Stars
The Expendables

F

Fat Freddy's Drop
Fishmans
Free Moral Agents

G

Joe Gibbs
Gorillaz
Groundation

H

Derrick Harriott
High Tone
Keith Hudson

I

illScarlett

J

Jah Shaka
Jah Wobble
Jellybass
Linton Kwesi Johnson
Junior Reid

K

Kanka
Katchafire
King Chilla
King Jammy
King Tubby
Kode9
Kora

L

Bill Laswell
Bunny Lee
Lee "Scratch" Perry
Long Beach Dub Allstars

M

Mad Professor
Massive Attack
Mikey Dread
More Rockers
Marty Munsch
Mute Beat
Michael Gibson
Manasseh
Mutaburka

N

Niney The Observer

O

Orb
Ott
OPM

P

Lee "Scratch" Perry
Prince Far I
Prince Jammy
Pitch Black

R

Roots Radics
Roots Tonic
Roots Manuva
Ragana

S

Salmonella Dub
Santogold
Satori
Scientist
The Slackers
Slightly Stoopid
Sly & Robbie
Smith & Mighty
Sneaker Pimps
Soldiers of Jah Army
Sublime
Suicide Bid

T

Tapper Zukie
The Black Seeds
Thievery Corporation
Linval Thompson
Tosca
Trentemøller
The Michaels

U

UB40

V

Vibronics
Victor Rice
Vladislav Delay

Y

Yabby You
Youth

Z

Zion Train

Piss Me Off · 01-28-2009, 09:08 AM

This looks like it should be in the Members Journal if you want? I'll try and contribute once i get the format, looking forward to it.

Terrible Lizard · 01-28-2009, 09:26 AM

Forgot Blind Idiot God, though I guess they only touch upon the style.

Gavin B. · 01-28-2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

This looks like it should be in the Members Journal if you want? I'll try and contribute once i get the format, looking forward to it.

We can place it in the members journal but I'd like to keep a copy of it on this dub music thread to generate some interest on contributing to it and after it's in somewhat of a finished form we can move it to the Members' Journal thread. Hopefully the index will serve as a handy primer for fans of dub music beyond the Music Banter forum. I'd like to keep the A to Z Index of Dub as an open source tool and I encourage people to use it and repost it on other forums and websites.

Regardless of where the index is ultimately placed, I'd like to keep up the Dub Music Thread because there seems to a growing interest in dub music among collectors and music fans currently.

By the way the typeface is Georgia standard size, which is a bit easier to read. All you have to do is post your entry and I'll format it, edit it and add it to the Master Index.

Piss Me Off · 01-28-2009, 09:58 AM

OK sounds good. Might make a good sticky when it's more complete.

jackhammer · 01-28-2009, 02:12 PM

I still hate the fact that Fat Freddy's Drop get called a dub band. There is barely any elemnts of Dub in their music. Plenty of Soul, a little funk and Reggae. Root's Manuva is A Hip Hop artist who had a Dub version of an album released and Sneaker Pimps are guitar heavy Trip Hop. Is it your own personal list?

Nice thread though. I will chime in with my two penneth worth at some stage.

Bulldog · 01-28-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin B.

10 Foot Ganja Plant-No other American band has shown as much dedication to preserving the spirit of 1970s roots reggae as the mysterious 10 Ft. Ganja Plant, a group that deliberately keeps its lineup shrouded in a cloud of pungent smoke (though it's an open secret that the band shares several members in common with the Ithaca, NY-based roots collective John Brown's Body). Source- Recommended Album:Midnight Landing ROIR Records (2003) Source: All Music Guide

Good call on these chaps - Midnight Landing is a killer album.

I've been on a break from reggae/dub for the last week or two, but I'll come back to my senses sooner or later. Great thread, keep up the good work.

jackhammer · 01-28-2009, 03:01 PM

Jah Roots
Sure Dread
Abassi All Stars

are a few more to add to that list.

Terrible Lizard · 01-28-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

Jah Roots
Sure Dread
Abassi All Stars

are a few more to add to that list.

Did you get Hope for a Generation btw?

01-28-2009, 08:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
Gavin B. Model Worker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	Dub Music Thread What is dub music? The word 'dub' today is used to describe a genre of music that consists predominantly of instrumental re-mixes of existing recordings. These re-mixes radically manipulate and reshape the recording through the use of sound effects. The production and mixing process is not used just to replicate the live performance of the recording artist, but audio effects and studio 'trickery' are seen as an integral part of the music. The roots of dub can be traced back to Jamaica in the late 1960s, where it is widely accepted that Osbourne Ruddock (aka King Tubby) pioneered the style Ruddock turned the mixing desk into an instrument, with the deejay or mixer playing the role of the artist or performer. These early dub examples can be looked upon as the prelude to many dance and pop music genres. Dub takes its name from the “dub plates” that were cut as instrumental B-sides to the hit ska, rocksteady, and–later–reggae singles of ’60s Jamaica. Producers routinely dropped vocal and rhythm tracks in and out of mixes to test sound levels. The dub sound–rhythms, bass lines, mixing sensibilities, and vibe is experiencing a massive resurgence that is stretching across contemporary music, from the bass-heavy trip-hop of Massive Attack and Portishead to new instrumental post-rock bands such as Tortoise to the manic, cut-time beats and subsonic rumble of U.K. jungle and even into some punk bands, such as Fugazi. Meanwhile, producers and deejays as Bill Laswell, Tricky, the Orb, Mad Professor, Adrian Sherwood, Dubmatrix, Thievery Corporation, Blackbeard, Peter Kruder and Richard Dorfmeister and others continue to push toward the 21st century and are taking dub along with them. Last edited by Gavin B.; 01-28-2009 at 10:09 AM.

01-28-2009, 08:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gavin B. Model Worker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	A to Z Index of Dub Artists This index is intended to be a work in progress. Eventually [/URL]I'd like to see a one or two sentence description of each group which would include the nation of origin, time era, the names of a couple of good cuts, and the sub genre of dub for each artist. I also want to include a link for each artist where the reader can listen to examples of each artist's work... I'll probably use the All Music Guide for guide for many of my blubs and musical links. If you use an excerpt from All Music Guide please acknowledge them or any other source. The free use laws governing copyrighted material in the USA allows 150 word passages or less, provided you acknowlege the source. I'm not sure what the UK free use laws are but I imagine they're similar to the USA, since nearly every enforceble copyright is held by a global corporation. All Music Guide actually encourages free usage within legal limitations provided you acknowledge them as a source. This is by all means a collective enterprise and forum members should feel free to cut and paste the index and add artists, blubs and links to the index in the manner of the Wickipedia collaborative method of participation. If it's okay with Jackhammer I'd like him to assist me on editing the entries on the list for format, content and grammar. When you complete an entry use the [B] to highlight the artist name and add a space between your entry and the next entry. I wrote the first entry for 10 Ft. Ganga Plant as an example of format style I'd like to use. The only rule of thumb is that all new artists posted must have recorded works within the genre of dub. Non-reggae artists can be included if they have a significant body of work using dub studio techniques. ================================================== 0-9 Numerical 10 Foot Ganja Plant-No other American band has shown as much dedication to preserving the spirit of 1970s roots reggae as the mysterious 10 Ft. Ganja Plant, a group that deliberately keeps its lineup shrouded in a cloud of pungent smoke (though it's an open secret that the band shares several members in common with the Ithaca, NY-based roots collective John Brown's Body). Source- Recommended Album:Midnight Landing ROIR Records (2003) Source: All Music Guide A African Head Charge-Led by percussionist Bonjo I, African Head Charge formed in the early '80s and has released seven albums with a shifting lineup that also includes Prisoner, Crocodile, Junior Moses and Sunny Akpan. The band works in the same dub psychedelia territory as Adrian Sherwood's work, which isn't surprising since most of African Head Charge's albums have been released through — and produced by — Sherwood and his On-U Sound label. Recommended Albums: In Pursuit of the Shashamane Land Restless Records (1994) and Songs of Praise On U-Sound Records (1991) Source: All Music Guide The Aggrovators A key session band from the mid-'70s. Often employed by producer Bunny "Striker" Lee, the Aggrovators had interchangeable personnel with the Revolutionaries and both bands cut the majority of their sides at the legendary Channel One Studios. Recommended Album: Agrogrovators Meet the Revolutionaries at Channel One. Culture Press (1998) Source- All Music Guide Augustus Clarke- One of the great dancehall and reggae producers, Gussie Clarke has been a successful Jamaican producer since the early '70s, when he helmed Big Youth's debut, Screaming Target, and the 1973 debut from I Roy. More known in Britain than in America, many of Clarke's early records were issued there by the Trojan label and as early as 1975 a cult fan base began to emerge around Gussie's dub sound. Recommended Album: Ram Dancehall Mango Records (1990) Source-All Music Guide. Augustus Pablo - As any business person will tell you, the way to success is through the discovery of a niche or a previously unexploited market. Still, few business people, and even fewer musicians, would have believed that there was a market for the sound of the melodica. What next, they would have s****ed, a kazoo? Yet Augustus Pablo would take this child's toy and launch a revolution in Jamaican music. Not only was Pablo's melodica unique, it would sweep the entire island's scene and become an integral part of the music of the era. Recommend Albums: East of the River Nile Message Records (1977) & Rockers Meet King Tubby in a Fire House Yard Records (1980). Source AMG Asian Dub Foundation - Asian Dub Foundation formed in 1993 as an outgrowth of the documentary Identical Beat, a film shot at London's Farringdon Community Music House, the site of a series of summer workshops designed to teach Asian children the essentials of music technology. In charge of the workshops were tutor Aniruddha Das and youth worker John Pandit, also a noted DJ; with one of their students, a 15-year-old Bengali rapper named Deedar Zaman, they soon formed a sound system which they called the Asian Dub Foundation. Recommended Albums- : Rafi's Revenge Slash Records (1998) & Community Music FFRR Records (2000) Source AMG B Bad Brains- By melding punk with reggae, Bad Brains became one of the definitive American hardcore punk groups of the early '80s. The BB have experimented in dub reggae projects. Recommended Album: I and I Survived (Dub) Reggae Lounge Records (2002). Source:AMG Basque Dub Foundation** - The Basque Dub Foundation started in the early 90s as studio project by Iñaki Yarritu, a London based reggae musician originally from the Basque Country (northern Spain). Iñaki moved into music production in the late 80's having being previously involved in Reggae since the late 70s as a radio DJ, journalist and promoter. In their early days BDF toured (as a sound system) supporting Mad Professor in the first ever Dub sessions to take place in Spain. Recommended Album: BDF Meets Loud & Lone Brixton Records (2005) Source: Wikipedia The Beat (aka the English Beat) Beats International Bedouin Soundclash Blackbeard (aka Dennis Bovell) Bonobos Brain Damage Sound System The Bug Burning Spear Dennis Bovell Glen Brown The Black Seeds The Bug Black Uhuru C Culver City Dub Collective D De Facto Digital Mystikz The Drastics Dreadzone Dry & Heavy Dub Band (Linton Kwesi Johnson) Dub Incorporation Dubmatrix Dub Pistols Dub Trio Dub Wiser Dub Syndicate Dubware Dubtribe E Easy Star All-Stars The Expendables F Fat Freddy's Drop Fishmans Free Moral Agents G Joe Gibbs Gorillaz Groundation H Derrick Harriott High Tone Keith Hudson I illScarlett J Jah Shaka Jah Wobble Jellybass Linton Kwesi Johnson Junior Reid K Kanka Katchafire King Chilla King Jammy King Tubby Kode9 Kora L Bill Laswell Bunny Lee Lee "Scratch" Perry Long Beach Dub Allstars M Mad Professor Massive Attack Mikey Dread More Rockers Marty Munsch Mute Beat Michael Gibson Manasseh Mutaburka N Niney The Observer O Orb Ott OPM P Lee "Scratch" Perry Prince Far I Prince Jammy Pitch Black R Roots Radics Roots Tonic Roots Manuva Ragana S Salmonella Dub Santogold Satori Scientist The Slackers Slightly Stoopid Sly & Robbie Smith & Mighty Sneaker Pimps Soldiers of Jah Army Sublime Suicide Bid T Tapper Zukie The Black Seeds Thievery Corporation Linval Thompson Tosca Trentemøller The Michaels U UB40 V Vibronics Victor Rice Vladislav Delay Y Yabby You Youth Z Zion Train Last edited by Gavin B.; 02-01-2009 at 10:16 AM. Reason: Updating Dub Index

01-28-2009, 09:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	This looks like it should be in the Members Journal if you want? I'll try and contribute once i get the format, looking forward to it. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

01-28-2009, 09:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
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01-28-2009, 09:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	OK sounds good. Might make a good sticky when it's more complete. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

01-28-2009, 02:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I still hate the fact that Fat Freddy's Drop get called a dub band. There is barely any elemnts of Dub in their music. Plenty of Soul, a little funk and Reggae. Root's Manuva is A Hip Hop artist who had a Dub version of an album released and Sneaker Pimps are guitar heavy Trip Hop. Is it your own personal list? Nice thread though. I will chime in with my two penneth worth at some stage. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-28-2009, 03:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Jah Roots Sure Dread Abassi All Stars are a few more to add to that list. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”