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jwb 09-17-2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2078676)
What do you mean? They're both 90s rappers and Slick Rick has always been praised for his story telling which is what I compared them to him for. You also conveniently ignored the part where I said they evolved with the genre.

It's not my fault you pretend to love hip hop and have to lean on inaccurate stereotypes about where I live as a qualifier.

... Slick Rick's career peaked in the late 80's. His style is simplistic yet effective, and I have enormous respect for him as an artist but he's not the name you want to evoke for rapping style 30 years later, unless you are saying they are the same kind of masterful story tellers. But even then you should've evolved past a slick Rick type lyricism or delivery... Assuming the ICP tracks in question aren't from 88.

jwb 09-17-2019 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2078679)
Bull****. They were always in the genre and NOW hip hop does accept them. You're just too out of touch with hip hop to realize it.

Based on what? Which rappers are paying their respects to ICP?

Lucem Ferre 09-17-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078680)
... Slick Rick's career peaked in the late 80's. His style is simplistic yet effective, and I have enormous respect for him as an artist but he's not the name you want to evoke for rapping style 30 years later, unless you are saying they are the same kind of masterful story tellers. But even then you should've evolved past a slick Rick type lyricism or delivery... Assuming the ICP tracks in question aren't from 88.

Again, you're clearly ignoring when I said as story tellers. On purpose.

Slick Rick hasn't been rapping for 30 years. His last album was 99 and he just recently put out a new single doing the same ****.

I already said before, that you dismissed, that ICP evolved with hip hop. They've been rapping for 30 years. Of course they evolved. You wouldn't know because you refused to listen because you just followed what every self proclaimed hip hop head of the 2000s did.

I even gave examples of their evolution but of course you get hung up arguing one little thing to misrepresent what I've said.

Lucem Ferre 09-17-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078681)
Based on what? Which rappers are paying their respects to ICP?

Based on them being called legends on hip hop publications, based on people like Jay-Z, Mr. Mutha****in eXquire, Danny Brown and others giving them respect for what they've done, based on having close relationships with multiple hip hop legends and based on the current generation of hip hop's respect for them.

I guess Mr. Utah is much more in touch with the culture than you are.

jwb 09-17-2019 08:19 PM

I've yet to check the ICP videos as it will take the right state of mind for me to try to enjoy them

But slick Rick is an 80s rapper with a very simple style relative today's rap was all I meant. He was famous for story telling but iah that too has evolved. So if you're sounding like slick Rick in 1988 yet the year is 1990 plus.. that's not a good sign

jwb 09-17-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2078687)
Based on them being called legends on hip hop publications, based on people like Jay-Z, Mr. Mutha****in eXquire, Danny Brown and others giving them respect for what they've done, based on having close relationships with multiple hip hop legends and based on the current generation of hip hop's respect for them.

I guess Mr. Utah is much more in touch with the culture than you are.

let's see the Jay z quote

Lucem Ferre 09-17-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078688)
I've yet to check the ICP videos as it will take the right state of mind for me to try to enjoy them

But slick Rick is an 80s rapper with a very simple style relative today's rap was all I meant. He was famous for story telling but iah that too has evolved. So if you're sounding like slick Rick in 1988 yet the year is 1990 plus.. that's not a good sign

Actually, no. Not really. While Slick's sound is as dated and corny like 2Pac most people that really love hip hop wouldn't mind a throwback rapper and he will always be respected as one of the greatest story tellers in rap.

You're also delusional if you think his rhymes are simple compared to today's hip hop like Lil Pump and Yachty.

The Batlord 09-17-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078688)
I've yet to check the ICP videos as it will take the right state of mind for me to try to enjoy them

Honestly for me the only thing that got me into ICP was hearing it enough while hanging out with juggalos for me to get used to how they sound. For a while I didn't care at all, but I was there, there was beer, we were having fun, so eventually it penetrated and became some of my favorite **** ever. Without that enforced exposure I don't know that I'd ever have cared. Don't assume your first impressions will be your final impressions. ICP are really a group a lot of people have to get used to. They just a "unique sound pallet".

jwb 09-17-2019 08:29 PM

People love slick Rick and so do I cause he is dated for a reason

If Rick the ruler came out today it would hardly make a ripple. That's just the gods honest truth.

jwb 09-17-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2078691)
Honestly for me the only thing that got me into ICP was hearing it enough while hanging out with juggalos for me to get used to how they sound. For a while I didn't care at all, but I was there, there was beer, we were having fun, so eventually it penetrated and became some of my favorite **** ever. Without that enforced exposure I don't know that I'd ever have cared. Don't assume your first impressions will be your final impressions. ICP are really a group a lot of people have to get used to. They just a "unique sound pallet".

that reminds me of how I had to get accustomed to Coltrane. Except without the feeling that I'm doing it to try to appreciate something more cultured.


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