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Old 09-19-2019, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yeh vanilla ice is not respected at all in hip hop. Even more than Hammer, he's seen as a pop oriented vulture that exploited the rising trend of hip hop to be a pop icon
No, people came around on Hammer.

On Ice, you're completely right. You forget that he's also a 1 hit wonder.

Unfortunately Vanilla Ice is also a legend. Maybe a pioneer of what we call today 'meme rap'. Maybe you can credit that to Hammer too, actually.
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No, people came around on Hammer.

On Ice, you're completely right. You forget that he's also a 1 hit wonder.

Unfortunately Vanilla Ice is also a legend. Maybe a pioneer of what we call today 'meme rap'. Maybe you can credit that to Hammer too, actually.
How you gonna hate on Vanilla Ice?

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Old 09-19-2019, 08:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hammer was more than a one hit wonder but his actual influence on rap music is hard to gauge. He definitely mostly made a spash as a pop icon.
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Him and biggie are basically there 2 most influential rappers.

They defined the modern bad boy/gangster image that is the default fir most modern, mainstream fans
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I’m just tossing a name out there. I hear Nas all over the place but not really Tupac. Could be my bias and what I listen to but I kind of, maybe incorrectly, suspect Tupac of be far more popular than influential. I’m a little hesitant to go too deep into that opinion because, I forgot what it was, but we were arguing about hip hop one time and it started to get really obvious I was wrong and then I was embarrassed. Do you remember what it was?
The thing is it's hard to know who's really influenced by Pac because musically he doesn't differ much from any other gangster rapper he's just the biggest name so he's the most influential of that era.

And the only thing I can remember was something about Denzel Curry not being what you thought he was and saying that you got mad because you take pride in your southern hip hop knowledge.


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Him and biggie are basically there 2 most influential rappers.

They defined the modern bad boy/gangster image that is the default fir most modern, mainstream fans
Not really anymore. The default existed prior to 2Pac because of NWA and Geto Boys. ICP were trying to emulate it off of them and I'm sure the same goes for 2Pac.

But that stereotype kind of got a rock thrown at it after Kanye West who's probably just as, if not more, undeniably influential on the state of hip hop today. The image portrayed in hip hop now is more so influenced by 36 Mafia than 2Pac. Dark, moody southern drug loving depressed kids using Satanic imagery.
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:11 AM   #7 (permalink)
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And the only thing I can remember was something about Denzel Curry not being what you thought he was and saying that you got mad because you take pride in your southern hip hop knowledge.
Yep. I went back and reread that and was like wtf? My brain was squirming like a toad lol
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Yep. I went back and reread that and was like wtf? My brain was squirming like a toad lol
Yeah, I wrote it retarded but didn't want to fix it.
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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only at this website would debating if tupac is corny or not go 30 pages
We all concluded that he's corny on the first page. It's mostly about the merit of ICP's status as hip hop legends.
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Hip-hop legends eh?lol
It might not seem that way to you but they had a really big cultural presence.
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