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Frownland 09-18-2019 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078866)
so there's not any way to judge art which isn't arbitrary?
Yep, let it speak for itself as they say.

jwb 09-18-2019 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2078865)
You don't see anything moving about that? Nothing maybe Lovecraftian about it?
No. It looks like random paint scattered. I see interesting patterns but I also see those in ceiling. No sign of an intelligent creator though.

jwb 09-18-2019 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2078868)
Yep, let it speak for itself as they say.
so then how can you possibly say any piece if art either good or not?

The Batlord 09-18-2019 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078866)
so there's not any way to judge art which isn't arbitrary?
The only way to judge art is how you perceive its expression. I agree about the circle triangle thing but I don't agree on the urinal or the squiggly line thing, and that's because I try to take them on a case-by-case basis rather than subjecting them to a rubric.

Frownland 09-18-2019 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078869)
No. It looks like random paint scattered. I see interesting patterns but I also see those in ceiling. No sign of an intelligent creator though.
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078871)
so then how can you possibly say any piece if art either good or not?
Well I like the good stuff.

The Batlord 09-18-2019 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2078869)
No. It looks like random paint scattered. I see interesting patterns but I also see those in ceiling. No sign of an intelligent creator though.
Who cares about an intelligent creator? The squiggly **** evokes expressiveness to me and that is worthwhile. There's something wrong-feeling with how it doesn't evoke anything intelligible. I don't even know if that's what the artist was going for but it still looks oddly hellish to me.

jwb 09-18-2019 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2078870)
ironically (given this thread) the same people who don't get the urinal are the type of people that will tell you rappers aren't musicians
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who said anything against the urinals and I'm more of a rap fan than anyone in this discussion.

jwb 09-18-2019 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2078873)
Well I like the good stuff.
arbitrary standards if art are whack

jwb 09-18-2019 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2078877)
thus the irony!
it's also a direct contradiction of your premise lol

jwb 09-18-2019 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2078876)
the worst Art is clearly representational Art

or exactly the kind that would make you admire the technical skill of the painter, even though cameras exist now
It's not about technical skill me either

But it has to at least be interesting to look at


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