Lack of accountability in rap

**Janszoon** · 07-10-2018, 05:11 AM

Alidasss! Nice to see you again! What are you doing in Kuala Lumpur?

OccultHawk · 07-10-2018, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

O.o

Ok, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and decide that you're a troll and walk away.

I’m fine not arguing about it but my position is sincerely held. I’m not looking for a mother****ing role model. I think your argument is depressing let’s take the fun out of everything puritanicalism. I want rappers who know how to raise hell.

OccultHawk · 07-10-2018, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Alidasss! Nice to see you again! What are you doing in Kuala Lumpur?

If he’s working and paying taxes he’s supporting one of the most homophobic governments on earth.

OccultHawk · 07-10-2018, 07:52 AM

I want film and tv to be far more gratuitous
I want hip hop to be more abrasive
I want comedy to be more offensive

I want my entertainment entertaining goddamnit

**Frownland** · 07-10-2018, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I want hip hop to be more abrasive

You consider declining misogyny and homophobia a threat to that? That's just you just being unimaginative.

adidasss · 07-10-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Alidasss! Nice to see you again! What are you doing in Kuala Lumpur?

Hey Jans! Nice to see you too! Working of course, 2.5 years now...

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If he’s working and paying taxes he’s supporting one of the most homophobic governments on earth.

Not that that was ever true, but you are clearly not up to date, they had a change in government a few months back, this one is a lot more relaxed...

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Originally Posted by elphenor

parroting established structures of dominance is super rebellious yo

but traditional rock is just as bad

there's only a couple popular genres of music that make an effort on this, and there's still plenty of misogyny in them

I would ask you for examples but this isn't my point.

Anyways, I should point out (for those who haven't figured it out), I am not an american so maybe you have to be to "get it"?

OccultHawk · 07-10-2018, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You consider declining misogyny and homophobia a threat to that? That's just you just being unimaginative.

Self-policing of any sort is a threat to that. **** your puss ass pc hip hop.

**Frownland** · 07-10-2018, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Self-policing of any sort is a threat to that. **** your puss ass pc hip hop.

Never said anything about self-policing mate.

Also gotta love it when people run away from one group of idiots missing out on music only to join another one.

OccultHawk · 07-10-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the most abrasive thing in music to the American public was never hedonism or violence, was the gender bending

Yes. I love challenges to the status quo and pro-genderbendering and pro LGBTQ+ (especially radicalized) is very welcome afaic - bring it hard - bash back

Kill whitey - Go Go ISIS - it’s all fine

I’m just opposed to getting into a tizzy over homophobia and misogyny - that’s also amusing subject matter

simplephysics · 07-10-2018, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

First off, nice to see some familiar names WHO HAVEN'T CHANGED THEIR NICKNAMES 15 TIMES are still around.

I really can't place myself in your shoes but I hope that this "doesn't really bother me" attitude doesn't come from just a general desensitization to misogyny.

Not to get all high and mighty or preachy as a female but that's just kind of a sad reality about life in general that goes well beyond music. Not saying I see myself as a repressed minority because I still hit the lotto as a semi privilege white female but... yeah. You get use to it sadly. I love hip hop though and don't take the lyrics so literally when they do paint women in a less than dignified light but honestly why would I expect anything different?

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