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Janszoon

07-10-2018 04:11 AM

Alidasss! Nice to see you again! What are you doing in Kuala Lumpur?

OccultHawk

07-10-2018 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1972696)

O.o

Ok, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and decide that you're a troll and walk away.

I’m fine not arguing about it but my position is sincerely held. I’m not looking for a mother****ing role model. I think your argument is depressing let’s take the fun out of everything puritanicalism. I want rappers who know how to raise hell.

OccultHawk

07-10-2018 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1972701)

Alidasss! Nice to see you again! What are you doing in Kuala Lumpur?

If he’s working and paying taxes he’s supporting one of the most homophobic governments on earth.

OccultHawk

07-10-2018 06:52 AM

I want film and tv to be far more gratuitous
I want hip hop to be more abrasive
I want comedy to be more offensive

I want my entertainment entertaining goddamnit

Frownland

07-10-2018 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1972719)

I want hip hop to be more abrasive

You consider declining misogyny and homophobia a threat to that? That's just you just being unimaginative.

adidasss

07-10-2018 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1972701)

Alidasss! Nice to see you again! What are you doing in Kuala Lumpur?

Hey Jans! Nice to see you too! Working of course, 2.5 years now...:)

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1972703)

If he’s working and paying taxes he’s supporting one of the most homophobic governments on earth.

:laughing: Not that that was ever true, but you are clearly not up to date, they had a change in government a few months back, this one is a lot more relaxed...;)

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1972714)

parroting established structures of dominance is super rebellious yo

but traditional rock is just as bad

there's only a couple popular genres of music that make an effort on this, and there's still plenty of misogyny in them

I would ask you for examples but this isn't my point.

Anyways, I should point out (for those who haven't figured it out), I am not an american so maybe you have to be to "get it"?

OccultHawk

07-10-2018 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1972720)

You consider declining misogyny and homophobia a threat to that? That's just you just being unimaginative.

Self-policing of any sort is a threat to that. **** your puss ass pc hip hop.

Frownland

07-10-2018 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1972724)

Self-policing of any sort is a threat to that. **** your puss ass pc hip hop.

Never said anything about self-policing mate.

Also gotta love it when people run away from one group of idiots missing out on music only to join another one.

OccultHawk

07-10-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1972729)

the most abrasive thing in music to the American public was never hedonism or violence, was the gender bending

Yes. I love challenges to the status quo and pro-genderbendering and pro LGBTQ+ (especially radicalized) is very welcome afaic - bring it hard - bash back

Kill whitey - Go Go ISIS - it’s all fine

I’m just opposed to getting into a tizzy over homophobia and misogyny - that’s also amusing subject matter

simplephysics

07-10-2018 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1972689)

First off, nice to see some familiar names WHO HAVEN'T CHANGED THEIR NICKNAMES 15 TIMES are still around. :)
I really can't place myself in your shoes but I hope that this "doesn't really bother me" attitude doesn't come from just a general desensitization to misogyny.

Not to get all high and mighty or preachy as a female but that's just kind of a sad reality about life in general that goes well beyond music. Not saying I see myself as a repressed minority because I still hit the lotto as a semi privilege white female but... yeah. You get use to it sadly. I love hip hop though and don't take the lyrics so literally when they do paint women in a less than dignified light but honestly why would I expect anything different?

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