Kendrick Lamar - DAMN - Album Discussion

~~Cuthbert~~ · 04-18-2017, 04:56 PM

Capable yeah, just don't see the need for three (and now two) threads.

But what's done is done. No big deal.

Edit: could this be renamed to include the album name in it?

**Exo** · 04-18-2017, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Capable yeah, just don't see the need for three (and now two) threads.

But what's done is done. No big deal.

Edit: could this be renamed to include the album name in it?

Sure. Why not?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 04-18-2017, 05:22 PM

Top modding, cheers mate.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 04-18-2017, 05:24 PM

exo making big moves for 2017 mod of the year

**Exo** · 04-18-2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

exo making big moves for 2017 mod of the year

3-peat.

Lucem Ferre · 04-18-2017, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

36 Mafia is crunk and there was Outkast but Trap Music as a package didn't exist. Lyrical content and flow that has lead to what it is today. Gucci Mane and Jeezy closely followed TI.

Bone Thugs N Harmony doesn't have a southern trap sound. They influenced mid west rappers and the drakes and childish gambino types that rap/sing on the same track.

Can you tell me the difference between Trap & Crunk? It's like saying there is a difference between wicked **** and horrorcore. No, it's the same **** under a different title. Trap is supposed to have a focus on drug dealing, with that flow and the specific style of beats that Da Mafia 6 has always used. There is literally no difference. T.I. took what other people, 36Mafia, Project Born, Master P, UGK, were already doing and called it something different. He invented a name. And that flow is 36Mafia. You can find songs of them doing that flow in the 90s it's not hard to find.

And Bone Thugs N Harmony has had an impact on modern Trap. They have an obvious impact on A$AP Mob since both Rocky and Ferg use that same kind of flow and singing style. Much more similar to them than Gambino.

Lucem Ferre · 04-18-2017, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Printer noise is a lot more interesting than flat and tepid beats.

So you dig cliched music, that's fine. I fault things for that. When you say artists I like, I'm guessing you're referring to RTJ right? They usually make up for it with interesting beats, something you will fail to find on this album if you hired a private detective. You're right that cliches aren't inherently bad and are sometimes used often for a good reason. This is not one of those times.

I only said that in the face of you pretending that Kendrick was being innovative here. That's not to mention that I know he can do way better, so this album comes off as pretty lazy when it sounds like it could have been canned and sold to another artist for an equally mediocre record. If you don't consider giving up ambitious ideas in favour of dull pop songs (objective btw) to be sacrificing artistic integrity, well maybe you just don't understand what I mean by that phrase. Above all this record just varies from tricking me into thinking it might be a good album (DNA.) to terrible to offensively meh. 1 good track means that I rate it 1/14. Come away with that.

EDIT: Listening again now. Still think DNA is a banger. Still a lot of plain horrible tracks. I like his rapping on FEEL but why do they have to do that thing where they make the beat as boring as possible? That Rihanna track needs to find its way off the album. Pride just kind of happens, doesn't reach the level of offensively dull, it's just dull. The beat on Humble is a little more exciting, but his rapping sounds really forced here. Lust - why does he sing like that? Why? You get the idea, I'm turning this **** off.

No, man, I'm just being an overly defensive douche, you have valid reasons. You find the beats boring and the hooks cringe worthy while I don't.

**Frownland** · 04-18-2017, 11:44 PM

Oh thank god I thought I was going to have to give the end an in depth listen. Stop listening to pop.

Lucem Ferre · 04-19-2017, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh thank god I thought I was going to have to give the end an in depth listen. Stop listening to pop.

I find a lot of the stuff you listen to just as boring and predictable as you find "pop" stuff. It's really more of a which sound appeals to you kind of thing.

Lyrically he does have some great **** though, I think it'd be worth a listen with they lyrics out.

I bought the album and mine is missing **** apparently, like the part where he talks at a convention about gun control after telling his uncle he'd shoot some one if they tried to hurt his kid.

Lucem Ferre · 04-19-2017, 12:43 AM

And there is not really any super ground breaking concept with in this album. It also sounds kind of like a mixtape as far as M/M goes.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Capable yeah, just don't see the need for three (and now two) threads. But what's done is done. No big deal. Edit: could this be renamed to include the album name in it?

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