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Two of my all-time favorite emcees will be working together! R.A. The Rugged Man (AKA Crustified Dibbs) has confirmed that he will be featured on a track on Chino XL's next album. Chino confirmed it as well.

Chino XL's last drop was a double album in the form 2012's 'RICANstruction: The Black Rosary.'

R.A. The Rugged Man last dropped 'Legends Never Die' in 2013.

Both albums are legit as all f*ck and can easily be played from reel to reel.

Having (arguably) THE two biggest lyrical monsters in the game on the SAME motherf*ckin' track is gonna be one for the history books (in my . . . book, anyways )




Chino comes in ~ 3:41

The Batlord

I've dug RA ever since "Uncommon Valor", and his albums have been slept on by too many people, and I still need to give Chino's first album a proper listen. Not saying I'm excited about this, but it's just nice to see people talk about rappers other than MF Doom and El-P (although I do love El-P).

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I've gotten into the habit of ripping albums as a single file, rather than track by track. It forces me to listen from end to end and really appreciate the music more.

I've set a goal of trying to memorize and spit R.A.'s verse on 'Uncommon Valor.' I can get over half way through. Dude's breath control is out of this world.

I love El-P. I've been down with him since 'Fantastic Damage' and 'I'll Sleep When You're Dead.' Most of today's hip hop heads only know him as part of Run The Jewels.

I don't f*ck too much with MF Doom. I don't dislike him, just haven't taken the proper time check him out in depth. I intuit that he gets a lot of love around here?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

doom definitely gets some love here but it's nothing compared to the rest of internet hip-hop communities. it's kind of like death grips in that we all (well, most) like him so we don't really feel the need to discuss him that much anymore since it's basically unanimous. batlord just has a hate on for him because he's into hooky hip-hop and can't handle the rhyme schemes.

oh and also RTJ is the worst thing El has done in his career but it's still great so i think that says something about how illustrious he's been over the last 15-20

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The Batlord

I guess it's time to start mocking you for not liking prog rock then?

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

mf doom makes prog rock?

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The Batlord

If we're judging music by technical achievement then you should chuck your pop punk and go listen to Yes.

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

using varying and complex rhyme schemes is entirely different than wanking over your guitar for 13 minutes.

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The Batlord

Fundamentally, no it isn't. It's all well and good to appreciate that ****, but to use it as a yardstick of quality is stupid. And yet people seem to do so with hip hop without thinking, even while doing the opposite with rock. Honestly I think it might be because the collective IQ of the hip hop fan community is low enough that their version of punk has just never occurred to them, and so even people with a brain in their head don't really think about it. Or hip hop is just musically limited enough that it's never gotten to prog wank levels.

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

lol hip-hop does have it's own brand of punk so to speak with trap music, except trap is expanding farther than punk ever did in terms of mainstream and chart appeal but that's w/e.

just like there's good wanky prog and bad wanky prog, there's also good lyrical based/conscious hip-hop and bad stuff as well. for every mf doom and aesop rock there's an immortal technique (yeah he sucks guys stop acting like he doesn't) and macklemore (not that he's a good lyricist but he tries to be through his whole 'look at how much i care about world issues schtick.') it's obviously not an objective thing and you're not wrong for disliking mf doom, but you're ignorant for implying that people only like him because they are hipsters. just because you lack the ability to pay attention to a rapper that isn't only going with simple 2 or 4 bar rhyme schemes doesn't mean he's boring or pretentious, it just might mean he's not your cup of tea.

i almost made it through the whole argument without an insult but i had to slide one in there at the end just for the sake of it.

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