R.A. The Rugged Man To Collaborate With Chino XL
 

Two of my all-time favorite emcees will http://www.quickmeme.com/img/45/4515...675be1157f.jpg be working together! R.A. The Rugged Man (AKA Crustified Dibbs) has confirmed that he will be featured on a track on Chino XL's next album. Chino confirmed it as well.

Chino XL's last drop was a double album in the form 2012's 'RICANstruction: The Black Rosary.'

R.A. The Rugged Man last dropped 'Legends Never Die' in 2013.

Both albums are legit as all f*ck and can easily be played from reel to reel.

Having (arguably) THE two biggest lyrical monsters in the game on the SAME motherf*ckin' track is gonna be one for the history books (in my . . . book, anyways :D )

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Chino comes in ~ 3:41

I've dug RA ever since "Uncommon Valor", and his albums have been slept on by too many people, and I still need to give Chino's first album a proper listen. Not saying I'm excited about this, but it's just nice to see people talk about rappers other than MF Doom and El-P (although I do love El-P).

I've gotten into the habit of ripping albums as a single file, rather than track by track. It forces me to listen from end to end and really appreciate the music more.

I've set a goal of trying to memorize and spit R.A.'s verse on 'Uncommon Valor.' I can get over half way through. Dude's breath control is out of this world.

I love El-P. I've been down with him since 'Fantastic Damage' and 'I'll Sleep When You're Dead.' Most of today's hip hop heads only know him as part of Run The Jewels.

I don't f*ck too much with MF Doom. I don't dislike him, just haven't taken the proper time check him out in depth. I intuit that he gets a lot of love around here?

doom definitely gets some love here but it's nothing compared to the rest of internet hip-hop communities. it's kind of like death grips in that we all (well, most) like him so we don't really feel the need to discuss him that much anymore since it's basically unanimous. batlord just has a hate on for him because he's into hooky hip-hop and can't handle the rhyme schemes.

oh and also RTJ is the worst thing El has done in his career but it's still great so i think that says something about how illustrious he's been over the last 15-20

I guess it's time to start mocking you for not liking prog rock then?

mf doom makes prog rock?

If we're judging music by technical achievement then you should chuck your pop punk and go listen to Yes.

using varying and complex rhyme schemes is entirely different than wanking over your guitar for 13 minutes.

Fundamentally, no it isn't. It's all well and good to appreciate that ****, but to use it as a yardstick of quality is stupid. And yet people seem to do so with hip hop without thinking, even while doing the opposite with rock. Honestly I think it might be because the collective IQ of the hip hop fan community is low enough that their version of punk has just never occurred to them, and so even people with a brain in their head don't really think about it. Or hip hop is just musically limited enough that it's never gotten to prog wank levels.

lol hip-hop does have it's own brand of punk so to speak with trap music, except trap is expanding farther than punk ever did in terms of mainstream and chart appeal but that's w/e.

just like there's good wanky prog and bad wanky prog, there's also good lyrical based/conscious hip-hop and bad stuff as well. for every mf doom and aesop rock there's an immortal technique (yeah he sucks guys stop acting like he doesn't) and macklemore (not that he's a good lyricist but he tries to be through his whole 'look at how much i care about world issues schtick.') it's obviously not an objective thing and you're not wrong for disliking mf doom, but you're ignorant for implying that people only like him because they are hipsters. just because you lack the ability to pay attention to a rapper that isn't only going with simple 2 or 4 bar rhyme schemes doesn't mean he's boring or pretentious, it just might mean he's not your cup of tea.

i almost made it through the whole argument without an insult but i had to slide one in there at the end just for the sake of it.

You do realize me using "hipster" and "pretentious" is just a way for me to poke at you, right (assuming you're not Frownland)? I know I've been using those terms for a long time, but it's just a quick and easy cultural association to invoke for fun. I definitely think there's an underground hip hop trend culture, but that exists in all forms of music. I don't like MF Doom, not because I think he's hipster or whatever, his flow is just like molasses to me. All the creative rhyme schemes in the world aren't going to make him any more exciting to me unless I get over that very basic aesthetic in his delivery.

Start calling him a millennial.

is nobody going to get offended over me calling out immortal technique for sucking ass? i expected a little bit of backlash

I mean, he's cool to listen to, and he's got some nice anger for when you're in that mood, but I doubt he's special to anyone who's not a conspiracy nut like Oojay. He does go hard as **** tho.

He has great songs that aren't about conspiracy theory or angry... He's definitely one of those artists where you have to be in the mood though.

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Crimes of the Heart

I'm not gonna stab you or anything, but I disagree. Conspiracy sh*t or otherwise, I like him. His lyrical topics and content are obviously his biggest drawing points, but he has some great metaphors and similes as well. He adds in his old battle rap lines.

"I'm cursed like Cain when he murdered his brother. Cut your face off and wear it while I'm f*cking your mother."

Sh*t's brutal.

That line sucks though.

Ain't nobody got battle rap lines like Em.

I disagree. I'm fine to leave it at that. No need to go into the whole "But YOUR favorite rappers suck!" or "blah blah blah" lol.

That's a weird thing for a Nas fan to say.

*BUMP*

They have to stop stringing me along! I asked them both for an update on twitter. I await their replies.

This might be the greatest rap/hip-hop collaboration of all time!

I asked R.A. about the collab on FB. He told me to ask Chino. Chino XL replied: "We're on each other's albums..."

That Taylor Swift mash up he did was a bit naff... although admittedly it is better than the original.

Kind of curious what kind of metaphors, similes, or general lyricism you consider good.. What's a good line or two, to grindy?

I've messaged Chino XL and R.A. The Rugged Man on Facebook [again] to see when this will drop. No reply as of yet. I hope it's as good as I think it will be!