is popular rap music today the most ignorant musical genre?

Vyle · 09-17-2016, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Don't understand. I'm just an ignorant rap fan.

So am I. That was the point. He came into a hip hop board calling the whole genre ignorant.

Blank. · 09-17-2016, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vyle

So am I. That was the point. He came into a hip hop board calling the whole genre ignorant.

Xseven · 09-18-2016, 12:05 AM

From my experience, such a thought is merely conditioning by exposure to marketing ploys set to attack any successful modern hip-hop artist done so by underground acts attempting to seek further attention - because they're incapable of doing so with the current music they make. The whole underground vs mainstream is a little nonsensical. Yes, some of the music drones on regarding the same topics, some of the artists don't know how to make anything BUT what they've been making for 3 years and can't leave their comfort zone. However, there are modern artists which have a more in-depth, subliminal message to provide. You just need to be willing to listen.

This genre, entirely, has never been, and never will be known as a collective of ignorance. Those who think that hip-hop, in itself, is nothing more than as you said "guns, drugs, and bitches" are uncultured and narrow-minded. You (as an artist) can either feed them ****, or feed them organic, original music.

**Janszoon** · 09-18-2016, 08:37 AM

Is "popular rap music today" actually a genre?

William_the_Bloody · 09-18-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Is "popular rap music today" actually a genre?

I was wondering that to, his argument sound like something I would have heard back in the 90's.

I don't really listen to top 40 music anymore, but Kayne West aside, is rap still popular on the charts?

djchameleon · 09-18-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ21

Simply put, "conscious" rap is usually boring and people listen to music to be entertained; not to be enlightened.

Facts.

Ain't nobody doing the dab to a conscious single. GTFO

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I was wondering that to, his argument sound like something I would have heard back in the 90's.

I don't really listen to top 40 music anymore, but Kayne West aside, is rap still popular on the charts?

There are currently 8 hip hop songs in the billboard top 50.

Xseven · 09-18-2016, 11:00 AM

I believe he was referring to the "mainstream" Commercial Hip-hop; which really hasn't changed through out the years aside of the predominance of the bass line.

Currently in the Billboard Top 40:

#14: Broccoli - D.R.A.M. Ft. Lil Yatchy
#21: Sucker For Pain - Lil Wayne, Wiz Khalifa & Imagine Dragons With Logic & Ty Dolla $ign Feat. X Ambassadors
#24: Panda - Desiigner
#34: Timmy Turner Desiigner

If you include Drake in rap, then he is holding #11 'One Dance', #17 'Too Good', #23 'For Free', #27 'Controlla', #38 'Work'

Xseven · 09-18-2016, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Ain't nobody doing the dab to a conscious single. GTFO

IMO, the "DAB" was developed when someone accidentally sneezed when the bass dropped one night at a club.

William_the_Bloody · 09-18-2016, 11:11 AM

Oh well blame human nature I guess. Sex and violence sells, if political consciousness sold I'm pretty sure Drake would be busting rhymes to Greenpeace.

Terrapin_Station · 09-19-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MORRISGUITARMAN

A lot of popular rap music has the same themes, guns, drugs, violence, girls(bitches).

Wait--what's ignorant about that? How the heck are you defining "ignorant" anyway?

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09-18-2016, 12:05 AM	#23 (permalink)
Xseven Groupie Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11	From my experience, such a thought is merely conditioning by exposure to marketing ploys set to attack any successful modern hip-hop artist done so by underground acts attempting to seek further attention - because they're incapable of doing so with the current music they make. The whole underground vs mainstream is a little nonsensical. Yes, some of the music drones on regarding the same topics, some of the artists don't know how to make anything BUT what they've been making for 3 years and can't leave their comfort zone. However, there are modern artists which have a more in-depth, subliminal message to provide. You just need to be willing to listen. This genre, entirely, has never been, and never will be known as a collective of ignorance. Those who think that hip-hop, in itself, is nothing more than as you said "guns, drugs, and bitches" are uncultured and narrow-minded. You (as an artist) can either feed them ****, or feed them organic, original music.

09-18-2016, 11:00 AM	#27 (permalink)
Xseven Groupie Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11	I believe he was referring to the "mainstream" Commercial Hip-hop; which really hasn't changed through out the years aside of the predominance of the bass line. Currently in the Billboard Top 40: #14: Broccoli - D.R.A.M. Ft. Lil Yatchy #21: Sucker For Pain - Lil Wayne, Wiz Khalifa & Imagine Dragons With Logic & Ty Dolla $ign Feat. X Ambassadors #24: Panda - Desiigner #34: Timmy Turner Desiigner If you include Drake in rap, then he is holding #11 'One Dance', #17 'Too Good', #23 'For Free', #27 'Controlla', #38 'Work'

09-18-2016, 11:11 AM	#29 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	Oh well blame human nature I guess. Sex and violence sells, if political consciousness sold I'm pretty sure Drake would be busting rhymes to Greenpeace.