SGR

Wait, are you saying "Takeover" was a childish comeback?

Also, one could argue that Nas started the beef. He took jabs at the Roc camp (specifically Memphis Bleek) in his song Nastradamus and Jay-Z wasn't having that.

Cuthbert

To be fair, when you're talking about Takeover having a better beat as to why it's the better dub then there can't be much about Jay-Z's dub that was great.

The point is to humiliate your opponent, Nas used a simple beat and the bars did the talking. It's pretty obvious it's the better dub? Nas would have been pissing himself after that, Jay-Z is on radio sounding very, very shaken. I just don't get how anyone can say Jay-Z won after hearing that.

SR, those examples of Jay-Z bars aren't saying much, even if he did show Nas a gun, how is that a diss lol? And I don't think Nas cares about Jay-Z selling more either (Jay-Z talking about sales lol, typical). And sleeping with his child's mom... unless they were together, that isn't really a diss either. If I was Nas I'd be like, who gives a shit?

14232949

RealTalk, you're an idiot. I've likely listened to Nas, Rakim, 2Pac and Notorious BIG a hell of a lot more than you have. You're not worth my time.

As for the Nas/Jay-Z beef, I think it may have all been a work. They saw the increased popularity that 2pac and BIG enjoyed from their beef, and probably got together to orchestrate one. It only enhanced each man's status within hip-hop and was beneficial to both artists. I didn't get the feeling there was any true animosity in it. As most have said it was pretty much just childish pops at one another.
They seemed to kiss and make up rather easily a few years later.

Ass Napkin Ed

This thread should have ended the minute the correct answer (Jay Z) was given.

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I'll take the worst of Metallica, Kanye, Jay z, Journey & U2 over the "best" of Eminem, The Beatles, Nas and Elvis any day. It's simple math, genius at it's worst or trash at it's best.

Electrophonic Tonic

PunkKitten138

I would have to go for Eminem, he's always had really good music. And i love the way of his lyrics has changed the way it has.

Soulflower

No you are because you told on yourself and have gave reasons to believe you havent even listened to the albums you are criticizing. You are also ignorant and beyond childish.

I HIGHLY doubt that especially since you ignorantly insisted hip hop is JUST about the "ghetto and shooting guns"


You said that two pages back but you oddly keep replying to me LOL

Thats your opinion which you are entitled to have and other posters are entitled to theres as well. You have to learn to respect other peoples opinion without throwing insults... its REALLY childish. Everyone doesnt have to agree with you.

Soulflower

Pretty much.


Nas lyrical verses were more complex,interesting and clever.He went beyond just talking about "sells, cars, women, etc"--- basically gimmick things, which is all Jay Z really can talk about.

Nas lyrics had more depth and the metaphors he used were insane.

14232949

RealTalk, why are you still talking? You make ridiculous claims and flat out lie to satisfy your own delusional agenda.
You of all people need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. You might also want to listen to some music some time, I don't think you get it.

Soulflower

You dont get to decide when somebody does or does not comment. Your not running anything but your ignorant mouth

Is anybody holding a gun to your head making you respond to me?

If you dont want to respond, THEN DONT.

That simple lol