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there are lotsa perpetrators in music...a great deal of music artists invest a great deal of effort to cultivate an image that might not necessarily be in harmony with their true identity.

You seen this cat Stitches or whatever who got stuck tryin'a roll up on The Game?? Iunno how that came into my youtube feed but it did. That dude's even more of an affront to the culture appropriation than this guy. Iunno much about Stitches 'cause he doesn't really pique my interest as the type of character who's even worth investigating.

It happens in all genres...I just wanted some video about how the majority of rappers are broke 'cause they try to live off of royalties but that's not where the money is to be made and they blow their advancements some new threads, a couple chains, and a whip and bam...royalties get ate up right there. For most the money comes from tour shows.

I'm sure it's the same with other genres and labels/promotions. Why do people need a front tho? I get how if you need the gimmick--sure why not? But if you're just a talented artist--what's shameful about being you? Iunno why people feel the need to front...

I hate the whole argument surrounding people having real life experiences that relate to the lyrics of their music. If your claiming the stuff is true that's one thing, but if you just like that kinda of music who the fuck cares?

~2:30 they talk about the OP

I agree. Do people care that Rush never lived in the year 2112 when guitars were forbidden, or that Led Zeppelin never actually visited Mordor? Why should people care whether or not some rapper actually was in a gang or whatever?

not that anybody owes you an explanation but maybe 'cause some people crave a degree of authenticity.

why do you care about what it is for which others care? That question is asked in a hypocritical vein itself.

There should be some authenticity behind the music your making. If your rapping per say about "blasting people with your 12 guage" than you should at the very least have some sort of past connection to the streets.

Otherwise your a fake profiting off the misery of other people's lives.

It has been argued that the influence of gangster rap had an adverse impact on African American ghettos in the 90's, so any white kid from the suburbs who tries to profit off of it, because he likes the fantasy, should be given a swift kick in the F'n head.

I didn't bother to listen to the whole interview but the guy looks and sounds like a pussy, he'd be sucking dick within the hour if he ever had to spend time in the pen.

Perpetrators? What is this, 1986?

Dude, tell me this isn't the work of a genius.

GTA? The Godfather? the list goes on and on and on.. Do you want Necro slicing up bodies and Cannibal Corpse fucking dead bodies?

The people that made those things are profiting off the very same fantasy. Please spare me the profiting off other people's misery.

GTA is a video game it doesn't involve social interaction and death metal is genre that everyone knows is based on fantasy.

Gangster rap is music that should come from the streets, not some white kid playing Compton in the basement of his parents comfy suburban home.

lol.

Well its true though, I have nothing against white rappers (I love Eminem) so long as they are authentic and not pretending to be something there not.

The same thing applies to black rappers, Soulja Boy is not someone who strikes me as having street cred, 50 Cent on the other hand is solid.

I just find it funny that people feel the need to draw an arbitrary line between hiphop lyrics and all other fantastic lyrics. Fantasy is fine for any other format, but when it comes gangster lyrics you better be real or it's not authentic lyricism.

Heh, tell that to all the Christian conservative types who have gotten up in arms about death metal over the years And how about black metal? Do you have to burn down churches and be a Satanist to make black metal or is it ok if you're just someone with a talent for making heavy, evil sounding music?

I don't see why music needs to be autobiographical. Ice Cube grew up in a two parent home with parents who had regular full time jobs and he studied architectural drafting. Does that mean he should never have picked up a mic?

Janz ever the contrarian.

What do you actually think of that music video?

Yes, enjoying music for its own sake, such a contrarian opinion on a music forum.

No idea. It doesn't show up on my phone.

Maybe watch it before posting your opinion?

When I watch it, I'll be sure to post a comment about it for your enjoyment.

I did make this thread for the purpose of gathering opinions about the video

Har! lol, yes that is very true, :)

but again (although some people will disagree) praising and worshipping a demonic entity is much like GTA; it is fantasy. The realm of the supernatural may very well exist, but as of yet there is no concrete scientific evidence to support it.

So yes, anyone can sing about Satanism if they want to, Christianity is a universal doctrine open to anyone lol.

If I grew up in Detroit on the other hand, and had friends that have put caps in people's head, well then that is a very real concrete environment. Your having to struggle in a tough environment to survive, and should have the street cred to rap about it.


Ice Cube grew up in South Central though, he rapped about what he saw happening around him, and when he went solo, his lyrics weren't predominantly gangster, he actually repudiated much of what he saw happening around him.

This Post Malone dude, is most likely rapping about a world he has only seen through the eyes of MTV.

Because we've got to keep in real DWV! We can't have the Pee Wee Herman's of the world running around pretending to be gangsters :) it would kill the genre!

Anyways, I'm not to concerned about the fate of gangster rap at this point, or any musical genre for that matter. As you know, I believe all musical genres rise and fall and have an expiry date on them, so I will let someone else argue my point.

Alright, I had a chance to watch it now. I thought it was kind of lame, not because it isn’t “real” enough but because it’s kind of a boring song. The video, likewise, was cheesy. I found his big, white high-tops amusing though. Made me think of Anthrax back in the day.


Burning churches isn’t a fantasy though, that’s something some actual black metal musicians did, along with killing people. And there are people out there who think black metal musicians are poseurs if they don’t engage in that kind of behavior or at least subscribe to a Satanic or racist ideology. I think most of us agree that’s dumb, that you can make good black metal without being a criminal or having some ridiculous ideology. I’m just saying it should be the same with gangsta rap.

All I’m saying is Ice Cube went to the same high school as Lisa Kudrow and Justine Bateman. I don’t think his section of South Central was all that rough. It doesn’t make me like his music any less though. :)

Well I don't know about the socio economic background of black metal musicians from Norway, but I imagine it's not as bad as the ghettos of America.

Black metal is also more ideologically based than gangster rap, (meaning that anyone can subscribe to the theology of Satanism, or whatever neo pagan gods they're singing about) while gangster rap requires one to grow up in a specific socio economic background to experience the gangland life.

I suppose Post Malone could move to the inner city of Detroit to gain his street cred....but I'm really not sure how long he would last lol.


I'm aware of that, he was part of the inner city bussing program where blacks were shuttled into nice white suburban high schools. Still point taken. Ice Cube and Dr Dre would definitely be described as studio gangsters.

I am cool with white people doing rap music. It is black music but I am ok with others doing the music also.

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where were all you progressives when v-nasty needed ya

you guys are late and lame, hating buffoonery is back



2011 wants its chance back

never got into v-nasty, but whip appeal with gucci mane is a banger lowkey

I didn't know people knew about Post Malone back in 2014 (I seen this is when the thread was started). I haven't heard too much about stitches, except his beef with game. I think Post Malone is okay, I did manage to find some more songs by him besides "White Iverson". I seen I can only post URLs to other sites after 15 posts, but I did manage to find a mixtape with 10 tracks by Post Malone, guess I'll have to wait to post that link. If you check my profile and then go to my contact info, that is my site and I do have that Post Malone mixtape on there.

Date of OP: 12-20-2015, 05:21 AM

Anyone know when Post Malone's putting out a new track?

New video arrived yesterday.

ive never heard 1 post song cept the one with ozzy and yeah even him and ozzy didnt tickle my pickle .... ????