Sergio94mj

hellooooo

mojofilter

"Boats and Hoes" lol

Mister Jip

busta rhymes - scenario
redman - the headbanger
rakim - follow the leader (his verses are always on point)
pharoahe monch - oh no
jeru - come clean (verse 1)
phife dawg - buggin out
mos def - mathmatics (verse 2)

Hip-Hop Homework

This whole album was a clinic on hardcore lyricism.

But the self-titled track ("2000 B.C.") goes hard, non-stop, from start-to-finish... It's not for everybody since his appeal was mainly to battle cats but that's what gave him his edge.

it's like takin' a ride onna rocket ship to break the landspeed record at the Utah Salt Flats...strap in and don't look back.

Canibus is my favorite MC of all time. When that dude was in his prime he was a freakin' microphone titan. Son was a rare culmination of outstanding rhyme schemes, delivery and breath control, with innovative metaphors and clever wordplay.

DwnWthVwls

Not many people appreciate that around here.

I think Master Thesis is my favorite song by him with 100 bars or Poet Laureate II tied for second.

But this is absolutely INSANE I just wish I had the opportunity to actually play with it..

Poet Laureate Infinity 1000 Bars

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Mister Jip

Has there ever been a more disappointing rapper then canibus?..the guy is considered a bit of a joke. 2nd round KO is a Hip Hop classic but LL killied his career in the end so canibus didnt really win. and then he starts taking shots at Eminem and has absolutely no chance because of the eminem bandwagon. And then he got absolutely annihilated in a battle against dizaster, its painful to watch..he pulls out a notepad, twat.


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Hip-Hop Homework

The guy is self-made...he might not have the commercial success or mainstream appeal you might use as a measuring stick for success but his career was never killed by LL.

I think Canibus in his prime, if he would've stricken back at Eminem would've bodied Em. Em is nice but so was Canibus and he has an entire body of work to support that.

The whole Diz thing...yeah, I mean. I know. He's an old lion and apparently don't give a "F" anymore. But considering him a disappointment for doing that well into the twilight of his career is kinda like expecting an alzheimers patient to look both ways before crossing the street.

If you think he's disappointing, you either a. haven't heard everything he's put out or b. have mismanaged expectations and have heard some catalog of hip-hop that managed to be wonderful without the likes of Canibus...

3 of his first 4 albums were extremely good, classic by my measure. And he has a plethora of cameo appearances on pretty much a who's who in hip-hop from 1997-2002. This guy has worked with the likes of Nas, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Common, Chino XL, Ras Kass, KRS-ONE, Inspectah Deck, pretty much all of flip-mode, Big Pun...if you consider that more than 50% of most people's top 10 lyricists wanted to or have worked with Canibus. Even as subjective of a debate as it is, his greatness almost becomes an objective reality that even the most hardened of critics can't deny.

I could go on but I trust that should suffice to sway your opinion back to where it should be?

Can-I-Bus, 2000 B.C., and Mic Club...

And here, give this a listen for the more obscure cameos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXk...e-cU2CJ9fsl2_v

Just sayin'...

You don't have to like Canibus but to say he's more disappointing than anybody?

I mean, eminem still makes music and I've heard the shady records channel...Eminem is just as disappointing and while Em never committed the battle faux pas 'Bus did with Diz, it doesn't make Canibus or his career anymore disappointing than the next artist who's in the twilight of their career and resisting the transition to mainstream obscurity.

I say this outta respect because it seems like you see Canibus through a lens of the bad publicity he's caught instead of the through the lens of the outstanding contributions he made in his first 5 years of hip-hop, which is still being remixed by producers to this day because that dude contributed more than you think.

Mister Jip

Twilight of his career? he never had a career because he screwed it up. I think he is disappointing because its obvious that he is a great rapper but he has never delivered to his full potential..when he first came out everyone thought he was the best. no one could touch him lyrically but then he ****ed around with LL and got blackballed and his career has never bounced back. If he was smart he would have just shut his mouth and let LL say whatever on the track. no one even knew LLs verse was about him anyway until he opened his mouth. he has had some great guest appearances but i don't rate any of his albums..and he always blames everyone else when his albums flop. The fact is he has mostly tried to base his career around dissing bigger name hip hop acts, riding on there coat tails to keep himself relevant but he has pretty much failed every time..even the link you posted was a dis to Jay -Z.

Hip-Hop Homework

The link was a playlist of a lot of his non-album stuff, remixes, and lesser-known tracks. I uploaded the Jay-Z diss by request.

I don't agree that Canibus has tried to make a career off the strength of dissing others...he used to be a genuine battle cat and to not diss people would be a denial to his origins as an artist. Everybody in the game has dissed somebody or another at some point so to hold that against him exclusively is kinda hypocritical if you're not holding it against everybody else just the same. But if that's how you feel--it's cool. I'm not here to impose my views on others but hope sharing provides an expanded perspective.

Back to your other points tho...a commercial album distributed my MCA/UNIVERSAL is how they treat blackballed artists?

LL is far from responsible for what happened to Canibus. He still hadda major-label record deal 2 YEARS (almost 3) after the LL beef. And for the record Canibus ate LL, it's subjective...from I'm pretty sure the majority of the battle cat community would agree by measure of a consensus of criteria, which I tend to agree with as far as what makes a good battle verse. "2nd Round KO" is a clinic on how to destroy another artist..."Ether" and "The Takeover" sounded like diss cuts from cub scout summer camps by comparison to the ferocity and level of intimate attacks illustrated in "2nd Round KO," don'tchu agree?

Yeah, did Canibus blame wyclef for the commercial failure of Can-I-Bus? YES! A resounding yes as it is in some of the skits on 2000 B.C.. BUT!!! That's Canibus' fault for believing the hype. It might have been a commercial failure but artistically I think Can-I-Bus is a monument to ingenuity...nigganometry? Get Retarded? Channel Zero?? They might not have had mainstream appeal in the wake of contemporary sounds like Jigga & DMX who were on the rise at the time. But c'mon, how many times you revisit It's Dark & Hell Is Hot now? Or Hard Knock Life vol. 2? I STILL listen to Can-I-Bus material...because it's still unique. Channel Zero alone paved the way for illuminati rap today, in my humble opinion. I don't think Can-I-Bus was a failure...I think people felt let down because they had mismanaged expectations and secondly were close-minded and couldn't appreciate something different but ingenious in its own rite. I was vicked by the hype too...but when I started listening to music more critically and independent of mass opinion and listened to Can-I-Bus again some years later--I fell in love with it. Maybe you might too after all this time?? If you haven't heard it since 1998, almost 2 decades ago...you might be in for a treat now.

I think, in fact, that Canibus defeated himself by subscribing to the hype that Can-I-Bus was a failure because everybody expected more of the same sound from the 1996-1997 mixtape circuit releases he had left in the wake of his rise...but it was so unique and that's what makes it stand out as an artistic success. His rhymes didn't suffer, they're still ingenious but they're on some different level 'cause he left a lotta bragadoccio out and started rhyming about conscious stuff like "Channel Zero" or "Special Forces" and "Buckingham Palace."

I mean, I'm not trying to sway your opinion...if you genuinely believe these things, I respect your right to do so but I hope you have considered all aspects of the equation here.

I am obviously biased towards Canibus but I keep it hunnid enough to admit that Canibus has made some jack moves and that he's released a lotta wack stuff...but that pales in comparison to 3/4 of his first albums and his lyrical tear in the mixtape/cameo circuit from 1996-2001. If you invent the a-bomb but also the furby...people should remember you for the a-bomb. Smell me??

I still respect your individual opinion even tho I may not agree with that and I hope this doesn't start some internet feud or you have static with me after this...

P3@cE!
I love hip-hop and wanna share that love...

I Respect the art form, you know?

Mister Jip

haha typical of a canibus fan expecting some static it's all good i to respect your opinion. we just hip hop fans. no drama.
we can agree that 2nd round KO was a classic moment in Hip Hop.he will always be remembered for that, but that song is his only real legacy in the game i think thats a bit lame for a rapper of his caliber .
He should have known his place and just kept doing his thing instead of being a bitch all the time. If you listen back to LL's reply to 2RKO, its good as well. He didnt lose face imo. decent response to such a brutal attack. and time has told who was right. I admit canibus did win that battle, but he never wins the war.