Why your favorite rapper sucks

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-02-2015, 02:39 AM

i think i need to honestly listen to more aesop rock before i do him. i've only ever heard labor days and his guest appearances on a few other tracks. which, don't get me wrong, gives me plenty of ammo to **** on him with. but i get the feeling you guys listen to his more recent stuff so my criticisms of him from back in 2005 when i still gave half of a flying **** about nerdy underground rap music might not apply today.

i've been listening to danny brown's most recent album because i resent the fact that this buckwheat looking crackhead made me break the rules to my own thread. i'm thinking i will have some ammo on him soon enough. the first thing that comes to mind is that i assumed he was from the south from his sound but then listening to some more of his lyrics it sounds like he's from detroit. which is pretty fake to me. why does every new up and coming mainstream (i assume?) rapper feel like he has to put on a southern mask. there was a time when rap critics didn't respect the south at all and rappers like outkast and ugk had to go out of their way to prove that some southerners have half a brain on them. now it's the reverse where drake, meek mills, etc are all trying their hardest to sound southern while actually being from in arctic ****holes that actually have their own hip hop culture and their own unique sound to build off which these rappers just utterly disregard.

**Janszoon** · 01-02-2015, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i think i need to honestly listen to more aesop rock before i do him. i've only ever heard labor days and his guest appearances on a few other tracks. which, don't get me wrong, gives me plenty of ammo to **** on him with. but i get the feeling you guys listen to his more recent stuff so my criticisms of him from back in 2005 when i still gave half of a flying **** about nerdy underground rap music might not apply today.

i've been listening to danny brown's most recent album because i resent the fact that this buckwheat looking crackhead made me break the rules to my own thread. i'm thinking i will have some ammo on him soon enough. the first thing that comes to mind is that i assumed he was from the south from his sound but then listening to some more of his lyrics it sounds like he's from detroit. which is pretty fake to me. why does every new up and coming mainstream (i assume?) rapper feel like he has to put on a southern mask. there was a time when rap critics didn't respect the south at all and rappers like outkast and ugk had to go out of their way to prove that some southerners have half a brain on them. now it's the reverse where drake, meek mills, etc are all trying their hardest to sound southern while actually being from in arctic ****holes that actually have their own hip hop culture and their own unique sound to build off which these rappers just utterly disregard.

Danny Brown has never sounded remotely southern to me. In fact, his fairly electronic style has always seemed very tied in with Detroit.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-02-2015, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Tech N9ne?

no. i'm being lazy right now but you guys keep throwing rappers i never listen to at me. anyone else can feel free to **** on some of these rappers that i am missing until i work up the energy to get to them.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Danny Brown has never sounded remotely southern to me. In fact, his fairly electronic style has always seemed very tied in with Detroit.

maybe i'm just not up on detroit music but his voice sounded southern and some of the drums reminded me of southern club ****. you might have a point though i always forget that detroit has something to do with house music or whatever. what an all around ****hole that city is.

**Janszoon** · 01-04-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

maybe i'm just not up on detroit music but his voice sounded southern and some of the drums reminded me of southern club ****. you might have a point though i always forget that detroit has something to do with house music or whatever. what an all around ****hole that city is.

It's not a shithole in terms of music. A hell of a lot of good stuff has come out of there over the years.

And it's techno that's from Detroit. House is from Chicago.

The Batlord · 01-04-2015, 08:54 AM

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It's not a shithole in terms of music. A hell of a lot of good stuff has come out of there over the years.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 01-04-2015, 12:24 PM

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Man, I just cannot, however I try, regard anything those guys have put out, as good. I had not heard two guys talk about their dick, and one another's dicks that much, until I listened to ICP. Exactly what is it about their music people praise so highly? Whatever it is, I am just not getting it.

My opinion on ICP being laughably bad, has not changed since I first heard them in 98. I have tried, and tried to find anything I like from them, but NOTHING has succeeded in winning me over, every damn song, and I just want to mail them a dictionary. I am sorry to anyone on this forum that listens to ICP, I'm not dissing you for listening to them, but I am dissing ICP. They're just not good, not even decent. They're the kind of group that make me want to go deaf.

The Batlord · 01-04-2015, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Man, I just cannot, however I try, regard anything those guys have put out, as good. I had not heard two guys talk about their dick, and one another's dicks that much, until I listened to ICP. Exactly what is it about their music people praise so highly? Whatever it is, I am just not getting it.

My opinion on ICP being laughably bad, has not changed since I first heard them in 98. I have tried, and tried to find anything I like from them, but NOTHING has succeeded in winning me over, every damn song, and I just want to mail them a dictionary. I am sorry to anyone on this forum that listens to ICP, I'm not dissing you for listening to them, but I am dissing ICP. They're just not good, not even decent. They're the kind of group that make me want to go deaf.

The things that people say are bad about them are certainly bad: they can't rap, they're morons, and juggalos are a plague. But they actually have qualities that go under the radar that are actually non-ironically good.

They have far more personality than even many of the best rappers. Their idiosyncratic, high energy personas are engaging---if you turn your brain off---in a way that really makes them feel larger than life.\/\/\/

They're actually pretty good story tellers. They don't tell a nuanced tale, but they still know how to bring it to life when they want to.\/\/\/

They certainly are two-dimensional rappers at best, but when they're firing on all cylinders they manage to work within their limitations to make something unique. Whether they were ever aware of these limitations, or if they just instinctively play to their strengths, is anybody's guess. \/\/\/

It's easy to brush this off as incompetent, but I think the monotone delivery, lack of variety, and ultra-simple, sing song delivery actually create a sinister atmosphere that would be ruined by someone with more "talent".

They're certainly not for everybody, but I think a lot of people dismiss them without really looking past their obvious flaws.

**Janszoon** · 01-04-2015, 12:37 PM

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I was things more of the good music that's come of Detroit, but hey, to each his own.

Side topic: Is Guy Fieri secretly a member of ICP on the side?

**Frownland** · 01-04-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I was things more of the good music that's come of Detroit, but hey, to each his own.

Side topic: Is Guy Fieri secretly a member of ICP on the side?

He was in Smash Mouth, but that just wasn't selling as much.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-08-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's not a shithole in terms of music. A hell of a lot of good stuff has come out of there over the years.

And it's techno that's from Detroit. House is from Chicago.

well i like danny brown, anyway. i hate techno/house/all that **** tbh. when i'm sober, anyway.

01-02-2015, 02:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	i think i need to honestly listen to more aesop rock before i do him. i've only ever heard labor days and his guest appearances on a few other tracks. which, don't get me wrong, gives me plenty of ammo to ** on him with. but i get the feeling you guys listen to his more recent stuff so my criticisms of him from back in 2005 when i still gave half of a flying about nerdy underground rap music might not apply today. i've been listening to danny brown's most recent album because i resent the fact that this buckwheat looking crackhead made me break the rules to my own thread. i'm thinking i will have some ammo on him soon enough. the first thing that comes to mind is that i assumed he was from the south from his sound but then listening to some more of his lyrics it sounds like he's from detroit. which is pretty fake to me. why does every new up and coming mainstream (i assume?) rapper feel like he has to put on a southern mask. there was a time when rap critics didn't respect the south at all and rappers like outkast and ugk had to go out of their way to prove that some southerners have half a brain on them. now it's the reverse where drake, meek mills, etc are all trying their hardest to sound southern while actually being from in arctic **holes that actually have their own hip hop culture and their own unique sound to build off which these rappers just utterly disregard.