can someone explain to me again why grime isn't rap?

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-18-2014, 12:14 PM

i know someone here explained it to me once. it was something along the lines of... the beats are faster and more electronic sounding or something like that. but that just sounds like regional rap music with a distinct sound to me. seems like saying g-funk isn't rap cause it has its own distinct style... it's still rap it's just a certain style of rap. anyway i know there are english people on here who might care to argue this with me and i'm bored as **** as usual so here it is.

Chula Vista · 12-18-2014, 12:31 PM

Where's Blanche when ya need him?

Thelonious Monkey · 12-18-2014, 12:42 PM

Grime is rap. But it's the sort of rap I cringe at. "shudders"

grindy · 12-18-2014, 12:54 PM

The only grime I actually listen to is in russian, so it might not be the real thing, but seems pretty rappy to me.
We'll have to wait what those hypothetical snooty brits will have to say.

**Frownland** · 12-18-2014, 01:05 PM

It's a subgenre of rap.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-18-2014, 01:22 PM

do u consider east coast boom bap a subgenre of rap

or g-funk

etc

**Goofle** · 12-18-2014, 01:23 PM

They are "styles" as oppose to "sub-genres" in my opinion. Who cares anyway?

The Batlord · 12-18-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

Rap isn't a genre tho right? Grime and hip hop (if that's what you mean?) are different, I believe. Grime has its roots in garage and dnb while hip hop is more derived from funk, disco, etc. They both involve rapping. Atleast that's how ive come to understand it.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I've always thought that hip hop was a derivative of soul and funk because that was the primary 'black music' in the U.S. in the 60s & 70s whereas grime is more a derivative of dancehall & reggae which was the primary 'black music' in the UK around the same time.
Both have elements of all of them but I think the primary influences are the main difference.

If that makes any sense.

I know nothing about grime, so the specifics of the possible genre splits are beyond me, but anyway... Drone originated with Earth, which was a band from the Seattle grunge scene, so originally it really wasn't a sub-genre of metal, but nobody questions whether Sunn O))) is metal. Granted, they, and many other drone bands, have introduced explicit metal influences, but a genre's origins don't necessarily dictate its present.

Ninetales · 12-18-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Drone originated with Earth

dude what

The Batlord · 12-18-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

dude what

Earth (American band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drone metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

12-18-2014, 12:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	can someone explain to me again why grime isn't rap? i know someone here explained it to me once. it was something along the lines of... the beats are faster and more electronic sounding or something like that. but that just sounds like regional rap music with a distinct sound to me. seems like saying g-funk isn't rap cause it has its own distinct style... it's still rap it's just a certain style of rap. anyway i know there are english people on here who might care to argue this with me and i'm bored as **** as usual so here it is.

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	The only grime I actually listen to is in russian, so it might not be the real thing, but seems pretty rappy to me. We'll have to wait what those hypothetical snooty brits will have to say. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's a subgenre of rap. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Thelonious Monkey Caesar is home. Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Grime is rap. But it's the sort of rap I cringe at. "shudders"

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	do u consider east coast boom bap a subgenre of rap or g-funk etc