can someone explain to me again why grime isn't rap?
 

i know someone here explained it to me once. it was something along the lines of... the beats are faster and more electronic sounding or something like that. but that just sounds like regional rap music with a distinct sound to me. seems like saying g-funk isn't rap cause it has its own distinct style... it's still rap it's just a certain style of rap. anyway i know there are english people on here who might care to argue this with me and i'm bored as **** as usual so here it is.

Where's Blanche when ya need him?

Grime is rap. But it's the sort of rap I cringe at. "shudders"

The only grime I actually listen to is in russian, so it might not be the real thing, but seems pretty rappy to me.
We'll have to wait what those hypothetical snooty brits will have to say.

It's a subgenre of rap.

do u consider east coast boom bap a subgenre of rap

or g-funk

etc

They are "styles" as oppose to "sub-genres" in my opinion. Who cares anyway?

random british people on youtube seem to care. and i agree about 'styles.' that's how i see grime too but i am really not as familiar with it. it just seems like they're pretending they invented something new when really they just tweaked rap music just like every other region that has embraced it.

Rap isn't a genre tho right? Grime and hip hop (if that's what you mean?) are different, I believe. Grime has its roots in garage and dnb while hip hop is more derived from funk, disco, etc. They both involve rapping. Atleast that's how ive come to understand it.

I've always thought that hip hop was a derivative of soul and funk because that was the primary 'black music' in the U.S. in the 60s & 70s whereas grime is more a derivative of dancehall & reggae which was the primary 'black music' in the UK around the same time.
Both have elements of all of them but I think the primary influences are the main difference.

If that makes any sense.