can someone explain to me again why grime isn't rap?

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-05-2015, 06:39 PM

either way that's a dumb point since hip hop has the same trend towards macho posturing. obviously there are exceptions but it is a big part of the culture and always has been. it doesn't gel with a lot of people's modern values but it is what it is at the end of the day. i don't think it's such a bad thing personally, but whatever.

Milkomeda · 07-10-2018, 02:04 PM

After 3/4 years xD
The only thing that is equal between Grime and Hip-Hop / Rap is the rap...
Maybe you guys listen false grime, like, Hip Hop with high tempo. True grime have UK Garage basslines like 4x4 Bassline, UK Bass, 2-Step, Dubstep...
If you remove the vocal from grime you have something like UK Garage and nothing similar to Hip Hop.
Wiley - Bow E3 - Is one example of pure Grime,
Hip Hop contaminated the grime culture and some dumbass are making Hip Hop with 140BPM and call it "Grime".

Mindy · 07-11-2018, 01:44 PM

because the rhyme skeme isnt on beat, there some flow going on there but deep down its just not on beat

now, that sounds mean that every grime artist cant flow on beat, just the majority of the songs even by the best artists suck

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

because the rhyme skeme isnt on beat, there some flow going on there but deep down its just not on beat

So MF DOOM is grime?

Mindy · 07-11-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

So MF DOOM is grime?

if he cant stay on beat, is in the "****ty sucky rapper group" along with most grime songs

i honestly cant name one MF DOOM song, do remember him sucking though so.. eh..

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

if he cant stay on beat, is in the "****ty sucky rapper group" along with most grime songs

i honestly cant name one MF DOOM song, do remember him sucking though so.. eh..

He's on point, he just flows over a beat instead of strictly rapping on a beat.

DOOM is top 10 eat a snack.

Mindy · 07-11-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He's on point, he just flows over a beat instead of strictly rapping on a beat.

DOOM is top 10 eat a snack.

i have 3 more hours until i start some nice garlic baked chicken

i just dont think that is a "good" music, when the rapper is off beat

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 01:56 PM

He's not off beat, but he doesn't rap on the beat nomsayin.

Mindy · 07-11-2018, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He's not off beat, but he doesn't rap on the beat nomsayin.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 03:35 PM

So you don't nomsayin. His verses don't focus on landing on the beat but goddamn he's so smooth that it still works.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	So you don't nomsayin. His verses don't focus on landing on the beat but goddamn he's so smooth that it still works. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	either way that's a dumb point since hip hop has the same trend towards macho posturing. obviously there are exceptions but it is a big part of the culture and always has been. it doesn't gel with a lot of people's modern values but it is what it is at the end of the day. i don't think it's such a bad thing personally, but whatever.

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Milkomeda Groupie Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 1	After 3/4 years xD The only thing that is equal between Grime and Hip-Hop / Rap is the rap... Maybe you guys listen false grime, like, Hip Hop with high tempo. True grime have UK Garage basslines like 4x4 Bassline, UK Bass, 2-Step, Dubstep... If you remove the vocal from grime you have something like UK Garage and nothing similar to Hip Hop. Wiley - Bow E3 - Is one example of pure Grime, Hip Hop contaminated the grime culture and some dumbass are making Hip Hop with 140BPM and call it "Grime".