can someone explain to me again why grime isn't rap?

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-05-2015, 05:39 PM

either way that's a dumb point since hip hop has the same trend towards macho posturing. obviously there are exceptions but it is a big part of the culture and always has been. it doesn't gel with a lot of people's modern values but it is what it is at the end of the day. i don't think it's such a bad thing personally, but whatever.

Milkomeda · 07-10-2018, 01:04 PM

After 3/4 years xD
The only thing that is equal between Grime and Hip-Hop / Rap is the rap...
Maybe you guys listen false grime, like, Hip Hop with high tempo. True grime have UK Garage basslines like 4x4 Bassline, UK Bass, 2-Step, Dubstep...
If you remove the vocal from grime you have something like UK Garage and nothing similar to Hip Hop.
Wiley - Bow E3 - Is one example of pure Grime,
Hip Hop contaminated the grime culture and some dumbass are making Hip Hop with 140BPM and call it "Grime".

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindfulness

because the rhyme skeme isnt on beat, there some flow going on there but deep down its just not on beat

So MF DOOM is grime?

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindfulness

if he cant stay on beat, is in the "****ty sucky rapper group" along with most grime songs

i honestly cant name one MF DOOM song, do remember him sucking though so.. eh..

He's on point, he just flows over a beat instead of strictly rapping on a beat.

DOOM is top 10 eat a snack.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 12:56 PM

He's not off beat, but he doesn't rap on the beat nomsayin.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 02:35 PM

So you don't nomsayin. His verses don't focus on landing on the beat but goddamn he's so smooth that it still works.

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 02:43 PM

Jay's good with elementary school flow. He's just so boring though.

The Batlord · 07-11-2018, 03:45 PM

lol

**Frownland** · 07-11-2018, 04:41 PM

The rapping is bad. By mindfulness standards, Jay-Z is grime.

DwnWthVwls · 07-12-2018, 08:14 AM

Grime is rap.

Doom is mediocre.

JayZ sucks.

/thread

07-11-2018, 12:56 PM	#65 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	He's not off beat, but he doesn't rap on the beat nomsayin. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-11-2018, 02:35 PM	#66 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	So you don't nomsayin. His verses don't focus on landing on the beat but goddamn he's so smooth that it still works. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-11-2018, 02:43 PM	#67 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Jay's good with elementary school flow. He's just so boring though. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-11-2018, 04:41 PM	#69 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	The rapping is bad. By mindfulness standards, Jay-Z is grime. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-05-2015, 05:39 PM	#61 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	either way that's a dumb point since hip hop has the same trend towards macho posturing. obviously there are exceptions but it is a big part of the culture and always has been. it doesn't gel with a lot of people's modern values but it is what it is at the end of the day. i don't think it's such a bad thing personally, but whatever.

07-10-2018, 01:04 PM	#62 (permalink)
Milkomeda Groupie Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 1	After 3/4 years xD The only thing that is equal between Grime and Hip-Hop / Rap is the rap... Maybe you guys listen false grime, like, Hip Hop with high tempo. True grime have UK Garage basslines like 4x4 Bassline, UK Bass, 2-Step, Dubstep... If you remove the vocal from grime you have something like UK Garage and nothing similar to Hip Hop. Wiley - Bow E3 - Is one example of pure Grime, Hip Hop contaminated the grime culture and some dumbass are making Hip Hop with 140BPM and call it "Grime".