| Cuthbert |
12-18-2014 09:07 PM |
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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
(Post 1525431)
i'm not denying any of this history.. it's not like i'm saying it's not a distinct style but that seems like all it is to me, not a brand new genre that doesn't have its basis in the previous 30 years of american hip hop.
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Could you not apply this to most genres? Including Hip-Hop.
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but let me ask you something... is that video an example of "garage"? if so then that vocal style sounds like it was taken from rap as well. i can show u krs tracks where the vocals sound similar to that from 1980 something lol.
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No.
& KRS is of Jamaican origin, he was probably influenced by toasting himself like these guys were.
I'm not denying the MC's were influenced by the Americans & Hip-Hop because they clearly were but I've made a point that I'm not talking about the MC's, I don't care about them, they don't make the genre, the Grime producers do. The MC's just vocal whatever is 'in'. That's why they've all fu cked off to make Trap now.
When I say Grime, I am referring to the instrumental side which is a legitimate genre in it's own right. You're probably referring to the whole 'scene'. I'd say it's London/UK accented Hip-Hop to a certain extent.
But in terms of the genre, if you think Grime is Rap, by default you should think Dubstep is also.
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once again rap is a common term for hip hop music i dunno why people get so caught up with that.
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"Rap is something you do, Hip-Hop is something you live" - KRS-One.
Lauryn Hill's first record is considered to be Hip-Hop but there is next to no rapping on it. Same for the Incredible Bongo Band's 'Apache'.
Linkin Park's 'In The End' has rapping on it but it is not a Hip-Hop record.
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i have heard for example dizzee rascal's first album and people say its grime. basically to me it sounds like rap music from another region.
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There is Hip-Hop on it, Fix Up Look Sharp for example.
It's 90% Grime though. |
