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CoNtrivedNiHilism 12-16-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanche_Minim (Post 1521689)
My observation when I was a teenager is that it is just a person yapping nonsense on a mic.

Here's the thing...

I have disliked Rap for pretty much my entire life, especially a large majority of the Rap being produced today. I've just never been a fan. But how ignorant of a person do you have to be to truly be convinced that Rap isn't music because to you, the 'rapping' is just yapping? Buddy, I am not wanting to be dick here, but you sound ridiculous.

Rap is music. Nothing you say, claim, will change that.

Thelonious Monkey 12-16-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1524158)
Here's the thing...

I have disliked Rap for pretty much my entire life, especially a large majority of the Rap being produced today. I've just never been a fan. But how ignorant of a person do you have to be to truly be convinced that Rap isn't music because to you, the 'rapping' is just yapping? Buddy, I am not wanting to be dick here, but you sound ridiculous.

Rap is music. Nothing you say, claim, will change that.

Now I feel like a dick for insisting that 4'33' isn't music. A number of people see it as music, so I'm probably wrong. Maybe silence just isn't my thing.

Oriphiel 12-16-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanche_Minim (Post 1524045)
I would rather listen to music that hypes you up and gives you drive and passion, rather than listening to rap, where you feel like Western Civilization has degenerated in the 21st century.

Rap hypes people up, as well giving them drive and passion. Rap inspires people, and helps them to carry on through the days of their lives, in the same way that Rock inspires you. If you wouldn't want someone to belittle the importance of Rock, then why would you try to belittle the importance of Rap? It's incredibly hypocritical.

And please stop talking about how Rap "degenerates the masses". The truth is that Rap is incredibly popular and influential, and at the same time violent crime is actually on the decline in America. You claim that Rap promotes bad habits and lifestyle choices, which is exactly what people said about early Rock 'n Roll, a genre that is actually named after a slang term for sex, and is filled with songs about sex, drugs, and fast living. But did Rock 'n Roll destroy the masses? No, it didn't, and neither has Rap. Now stop being such a close-minded hypocrite and find something else to take out your frustrations on.

CoNtrivedNiHilism 12-16-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinJJustin (Post 1524164)
Now I feel like a dick for insisting that 4'33' isn't music. A number of people see it as music, so I'm probably wrong. Maybe silence just isn't my thing.

Well, it is all just an opinion. Fact of the matter is that when there is melody, instrumentation of any kind, vocals of any kind, that's music. Silence being music? Haha, well...not much I can say on that.

Anyway, the OP of this thread and his opinion that Rap isn't music speaks volumes on how little he knows about the musical world, the guy should probably do some learning before he comes to a place like this, and says things like...well, this thread.

John Wilkes Booth 12-16-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1524136)
Blanche is sure to think of something though.

i wonder if his name is actually blanche. in which case i definitely recommend he avoid listening to rap at all costs.

grindy 12-16-2014 11:53 AM

One has to admire all your idealism in still trying to reason with a guy who proved again and again that he is either a troll or some kind of sinister Forrest Gump.

Blanche_Minim 12-17-2014 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1524193)
i wonder if his name is actually blanche. in which case i definitely recommend he avoid listening to rap at all costs.

My real name is Jason. I have plans for the name Blanche Minim, I will use it again in the future.

DeadChannel 12-17-2014 07:45 AM

Good for you?

Machine 12-17-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanche_Minim (Post 1524575)
My real name is Jason. I have plans for the name Blanche Minim, I will use it again in the future.

Probably going to be your emcee name right? What's your mixtape called?

Blanche_Minim 12-17-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1524168)
Rap hypes people up, as well giving them drive and passion. Rap inspires people, and helps them to carry on through the days of their lives, in the same way that Rock inspires you. If you wouldn't want someone to belittle the importance of Rock, then why would you try to belittle the importance of Rap? It's incredibly hypocritical.

And please stop talking about how Rap "degenerates the masses". The truth is that Rap is incredibly popular and influential, and at the same time violent crime is actually on the decline in America. You claim that Rap promotes bad habits and lifestyle choices, which is exactly what people said about early Rock 'n Roll, a genre that is actually named after a slang term for sex, and is filled with songs about sex, drugs, and fast living. But did Rock 'n Roll destroy the masses? No, it didn't, and neither has Rap. Now stop being such a close-minded hypocrite and find something else to take out your frustrations on.

I'm surprised you have an '80s or 70's rock band as your avatar and you like rap. I look and dress like a prep, but I listen to the kind of music as if I wear a black shirt of my favorite bands and I have long hair.

Additional Information: I have no tattoos, I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, and I don't do drugs, I have no earrings, and I am not into jewelry (I use my cellphone as my watch). I don't care about the content of the music, what I care about is a song with a strong melody. At least the death metal bands I listen to scream most of the time and playing heavy chords, but it leads to something melodic.

Rap has no melody and I don't spend time listening to that genre.


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