Why is modern Hip-Hop music, aswell as mainstream pop so hated by people?

Adraen · 08-19-2014, 12:40 PM

All I can say is just people are just disrecpectful. They don't respect other people's choice of music.

Currently I am a big fan of Hip-Hop Soul songs (mostly DJ Mustard produced songs like Paranoid, Na Na, Loyal, yadayadayada...).
On youtube, I see A BUNCH of comments like :

"This ni**a sucks b***s, listen to Tupac and (insert renowned 90s rappers here)"

"Hip-Hop is dead."

"Now music is all about sex, money, prostitutes, drugs, (anything related to hip-hop culture that are offensive to the general public). Where are the guys who rap real ??? (??? "Real" ???)

"This is why I listen to metal." (rare, but these are common on 9gag.)

Oh, not to mention the weird spellings that I can't even decode O.O

You guys might've already guessed that these guys are mostly people who listen to rock and people who listen to old school hip-hop.
No respect for other people's hobby and also becoming a conformism and what happened to listening to artists that you truly like instead of following the big crowd??

Now on to Pop music. Recently there's a new pop punk band which consists of four "pretty boys" : 5SOS
They sing songs that don't please my ear very much and irritates them more than Justin Bieber's voice and the songs offered to 1D

Despite that, I still respect these guys and don't post a hate comment on them. Just go check the comment to see if there's anything interesting.
Well, I stumbled upon these types of comments :

"Gaaaaaaay!!!!! These guys look like ***s with their dyed hair and piercings, (anything that looks quite feminine)"

"OMG WTF they copy 1D/modern boybands they suck so baaad."

First off, "gay" is not even a proper insult. Second, they are just a band who happens to go for the (nearly) same genre and again with this "The music in my era is the good music because I lived in it."

So, I want to ask you guys, why do SO many people are so rude and disrecpectful ??? If you hate it, then PLEASE don't comment rude things. No one forces you to like the same things as we do.

MyRapNameIsAlex · 08-20-2014, 07:53 PM

Well, first of all YouTube is where all trolls congregate. It's like the 2nd troll heaven after 4chan. It's a mix of people who really want a nice anonymous place to say all of the rude things they wouldn't say to people in person and people who just want to get people's goat and see if they can whip others into an emotional post for their own amusement.

But, even in spite of that. A lot of people hate rap music more and more because they feel it is hurting people on purpose just to make a buck. A lot of people like myself feel like Hip Hop was a diverse and beautiful culture that got standardized, bastardized and turned into a really boring and hurtful cartoon of its former self that reflects poorly on urban youth. I could go on but I'll stop myself.

Pop music is hated on because it's pop music and that's what it's there for. The pop music gets marketed to all the 13 year olds and makes a ton of money off of them. And then all other music gets marketed as anti-pop and makes a ton of money off of contrasting itself to pop music. That's how music is sold.

The Batlord · 08-20-2014, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MyRapNameIsAlex

Well, first of all YouTube is where all trolls congregate. It's like the 2nd troll heaven after 4chan. It's a mix of people who really want a nice anonymous place to say all of the rude things they wouldn't say to people in person and people who just want to get people's goat and see if they can whip others into an emotional post for their own amusement.

This. Never scroll down on a YouTube vid. It never ends well.

skyline · 08-20-2014, 08:19 PM

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~~Soulflower~~ · 08-20-2014, 11:34 PM

I don't know why people can not have an opinion or express constructive criticism in music anymore. It is almost a crime nowadays to be opinionated in music.

Why can't people not like mainstream music simply because they don't like it? Why does it have to be some alternative motive with why someone does not like something? Everyone is not required to like the things you like or obligated to agree with the popular opinion.

It is called an opinion for a reason.

It seems nowadays people condemn those that have an unpopular opinion or speak their mind and I think that is sad.

If people want to express their opinion on something, whether it be good or negative than they are entitled to. If they are not trolling or being disrespectful, then there is really not a problem.

The people who complain about the people criticizing things about music are the ones I think are the problem because they try to censor and hinder people from expressing their opinion. It is okay for them to express theirs but it is not okay for others.

What kind of systematic is that? Makes no sense.

14232949 · 08-21-2014, 09:45 AM

"Music wasn't like this in 2008. those were the good days, thumbs up if you agree"

Black Francis · 08-21-2014, 11:29 AM

Here is a better question, why don't you just accept some ppl think differently than you and go make yourself a sandwich?

ppl LOVE to be contrarians on the internet and alot of them fancy themselves to be expert music critics but really they are nothing more than opinionated ppl behind a monitor.

Good or bad comments shouldn't offend you just draw from them any validity they have and discard the rest but don't take them personal cause if you do you'll become vulnerable to them so just laugh them off and go on with your day.

Adraen · 08-21-2014, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulflower

I don't know why people can not have an opinion or express constructive criticism in music anymore. It is almost a crime nowadays to be opinionated in music.

Why can't people not like mainstream music simply because they don't like it? Why does it have to be some alternative motive with why someone does not like something? Everyone is not required to like the things you like or obligated to agree with the popular opinion.

It is called an opinion for a reason.

It seems nowadays people condemn those that have an unpopular opinion or speak their mind and I think that is sad.

If people want to express their opinion on something, whether it be good or negative than they are entitled to. If they are not trolling or being disrespectful, then there is really not a problem.

The people who complain about the people criticizing things about music are the ones I think are the problem because they try to censor and hinder people from expressing their opinion. It is okay for them to express theirs but it is not okay for others.

What kind of systematic is that? Makes no sense.

It's okay if some people don't like it. I don't force people to like what I listen to but some people... especially rock fans are just a bunch of judgemental d***s.
They never learn to respect other people's choice of hobby and furthermore, they judge the whole person based on what they listen to.

I just argued with a person who's not a fan of mainstream music and I'm just TIRED of him/her insulting the music that I listen to.
That 9gagger constantly tells me that I have no idea what "talent" and that was the moment when he really got on my nerves.
No talent in pop music ? Is he retarded or just simply being an *******? How about harmonising and vocal talent? Isn't that talent?

The worst thing is that he puts out A BUNCH of musicians that has talent like classical pianists, violinists, rockers yadaydaydaya....
Guess what, I DON'T CARE! WHY CAN'T WE JUST LISTEN TO THE MUSIC THAT WE LIKE JUST BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY LIKE INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING A CROWD WHO SAYS THAT "MUSIC NEEDS "TALENT" TO BE LISTENED TO"

This is why I hate rock fans. Most of them can tolerate ANYTHING and always be *******. Do you REALLY need to say that you hate mainstream music?

Adraen · 08-21-2014, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis

Here is a better question, why don't you just accept some ppl think differently than you and go make yourself a sandwich?

ppl LOVE to be contrarians on the internet and alot of them fancy themselves to be expert music critics but really they are nothing more than opinionated ppl behind a monitor.

Good or bad comments shouldn't offend you just draw from them any validity they have and discard the rest but don't take them personal cause if you do you'll become vulnerable to them so just laugh them off and go on with your day.

Thank you for the suggestion. I wrote my last reply before reading so please excuse me.

Black Francis · 08-21-2014, 12:11 PM

Im a rock fan and i like hip hop and pop so don't bunch all of us rockers with that guy you mentioned.

I myself have a love/hate opinion on mainstream music, i despise some artist in it but others i like and would even defend.

But the hate of mainstream music is something that will never go away, i myself indulge in it from time to time but other times i couldn't care less.

i don't however search for videos from bands i dislike to post hateful comments about the band and their fans and alot of haters on youtube do that and at that point is not about a different of taste anymore, its about an assh*le claiming to have a superior taste.

08-19-2014, 12:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Adraen Groupie Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Hanoi Posts: 11	Why is modern Hip-Hop music, aswell as mainstream pop so hated by people? All I can say is just people are just disrecpectful. They don't respect other people's choice of music. Currently I am a big fan of Hip-Hop Soul songs (mostly DJ Mustard produced songs like Paranoid, Na Na, Loyal, yadayadayada...). On youtube, I see A BUNCH of comments like : "This nia sucks bs, listen to Tupac and (insert renowned 90s rappers here)" "Hip-Hop is dead." "Now music is all about sex, money, prostitutes, drugs, (anything related to hip-hop culture that are offensive to the general public). Where are the guys who rap real ??? (??? "Real" ???) "This is why I listen to metal." (rare, but these are common on 9gag.) Oh, not to mention the weird spellings that I can't even decode O.O You guys might've already guessed that these guys are mostly people who listen to rock and people who listen to old school hip-hop. No respect for other people's hobby and also becoming a conformism and what happened to listening to artists that you truly like instead of following the big crowd?? Now on to Pop music. Recently there's a new pop punk band which consists of four "pretty boys" : 5SOS They sing songs that don't please my ear very much and irritates them more than Justin Bieber's voice and the songs offered to 1D Despite that, I still respect these guys and don't post a hate comment on them. Just go check the comment to see if there's anything interesting. Well, I stumbled upon these types of comments : "Gaaaaaaay!!!!! These guys look like **s with their dyed hair and piercings, (anything that looks quite feminine)" "OMG WTF they copy 1D/modern boybands they suck so baaad." First off, "gay" is not even a proper insult. Second, they are just a band who happens to go for the (nearly) same genre and again with this "The music in my era is the good music because I lived in it." So, I want to ask you guys, why do SO many people are so rude and disrecpectful ??? If you hate it, then PLEASE don't comment rude things. No one forces you to like the same things as we do.

08-21-2014, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Here is a better question, why don't you just accept some ppl think differently than you and go make yourself a sandwich? ppl LOVE to be contrarians on the internet and alot of them fancy themselves to be expert music critics but really they are nothing more than opinionated ppl behind a monitor. Good or bad comments shouldn't offend you just draw from them any validity they have and discard the rest but don't take them personal cause if you do you'll become vulnerable to them so just laugh them off and go on with your day. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

08-21-2014, 12:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Im a rock fan and i like hip hop and pop so don't bunch all of us rockers with that guy you mentioned. I myself have a love/hate opinion on mainstream music, i despise some artist in it but others i like and would even defend. But the hate of mainstream music is something that will never go away, i myself indulge in it from time to time but other times i couldn't care less. i don't however search for videos from bands i dislike to post hateful comments about the band and their fans and alot of haters on youtube do that and at that point is not about a different of taste anymore, its about an asshle claiming to have a superior taste. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

08-20-2014, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
MyRapNameIsAlex Groupie Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 7	Well, first of all YouTube is where all trolls congregate. It's like the 2nd troll heaven after 4chan. It's a mix of people who really want a nice anonymous place to say all of the rude things they wouldn't say to people in person and people who just want to get people's goat and see if they can whip others into an emotional post for their own amusement. But, even in spite of that. A lot of people hate rap music more and more because they feel it is hurting people on purpose just to make a buck. A lot of people like myself feel like Hip Hop was a diverse and beautiful culture that got standardized, bastardized and turned into a really boring and hurtful cartoon of its former self that reflects poorly on urban youth. I could go on but I'll stop myself. Pop music is hated on because it's pop music and that's what it's there for. The pop music gets marketed to all the 13 year olds and makes a ton of money off of them. And then all other music gets marketed as anti-pop and makes a ton of money off of contrasting itself to pop music. That's how music is sold.

08-20-2014, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
skyline Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 78	Robbers Cave Experiment / Realistic Conflict Theory \| Simply Psychology Because we are deeply flawed.

08-20-2014, 11:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	I don't know why people can not have an opinion or express constructive criticism in music anymore. It is almost a crime nowadays to be opinionated in music. Why can't people not like mainstream music simply because they don't like it? Why does it have to be some alternative motive with why someone does not like something? Everyone is not required to like the things you like or obligated to agree with the popular opinion. It is called an opinion for a reason. It seems nowadays people condemn those that have an unpopular opinion or speak their mind and I think that is sad. If people want to express their opinion on something, whether it be good or negative than they are entitled to. If they are not trolling or being disrespectful, then there is really not a problem. The people who complain about the people criticizing things about music are the ones I think are the problem because they try to censor and hinder people from expressing their opinion. It is okay for them to express theirs but it is not okay for others. What kind of systematic is that? Makes no sense.

08-21-2014, 09:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	"Music wasn't like this in 2008. those were the good days, thumbs up if you agree"