Is Hip Hop Destroying American Youth?

djchameleon · 08-17-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I just simply focused on why Hip Hop was originally created.

We are going to have to agree to disagree because you refuse to see that hip hop was originally created as block party music.

The hip hop subculture surrounding the four elements came a bit later.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I have never confined Hip Hop to one particular period.

You actually do every reference you have made towards what is considered Hip Hop only fits the criteria of mainstream rap from the 80s.

**Goofle** · 08-17-2014, 03:15 PM

Soulflower, leave this argument alone and listen to that Ester Rada album I posted about. Right up your alley.

DwnWthVwls · 08-17-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

The hip hop subculture surrounding the four elements came a bit later.

Eh.. not really. I didn't feel like typing so here are some generic links that explain what is widely accepted by hiphop heads and people interested in it's origins.

https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/t...f_hip_hop.html

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Hip hop music originated in 1970s block parties in New York City, specifically The Bronx.[1] Hip hop culture, including MCing, DJing, graffiti and b-boying. In the 1930s more than a sixth of Harlem residents were from the West Indies, and the block parties of the '80s were closely similar to sound systems in Jamaica.[1] These were large parties, originally outdoors, thrown by owners of loud and expensive stereo equipment, which they could share with the community or use to compete among themselves, who began speaking lyrics or toasting.

Rap music emerged from block parties after ultra-competitive DJs isolated percussion breaks, those being the favorites among dancers, and MCs began speaking over the beats;[1] in Jamaica, a similar musical style called dub developed from the same isolated and elongated percussion breaks. However, "most rappers will tell you that they either disliked reggae or were only vaguely aware of it in the early and middle '70s."[1]

"Rappers Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang is the first song that was recorded & released by a hip hop crew, and therefore is considered the first true hip hop release, though "King Tim III" by the R&B group Fatback Band and "Groovy Ghost Show" by Casper are sometimes considered to be the first because they featured rapping, and predated "Rapper's Delight" by a few months.[1]

Lil Rodney Cee, of Funky Four Plus One More and Double Trouble, cites Cowboy, of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, as, "the first MC that I know of...He was the first MC to talk about the DJ."

Birthplace Of Hip Hop | History Detectives | PBS

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A hip hop enthusiast from New York City has always heard that 1520 Sedgwick Avenue in the Bronx is the birthplace of hip hop.

The story goes that on August 11, 1973 DJ Kool Herc, a building resident, was entertaining at his sister’s back-to-school party, and tried something new on the turntable: he extended an instrumental beat (breaking or scratching) to let people dance longer (break dancing) and began MC’ing (rapping) during the extended breakdancing.

This, the contributor believes, marked the birth of hip hop. The music led to an entire cultural movement that’s altered generational thinking – from politics and race to art and language.

djchameleon · 08-17-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Eh.. not really. I didn't feel like typing so here are some generic links that explain what is widely accepted by hiphop heads and people interested in it's origins.

Pretty much said the same thing I did.

DwnWthVwls · 08-17-2014, 03:48 PM

Yeh, except the 4 elements subculture didn't come a bit later.

Just wanted to make sure you understood that.

Gatorface · 09-29-2014, 05:53 PM

yeah your right hiphop is and always was a programing of the mind very influencial but then it started being used for evil.

Surell · 09-30-2014, 10:42 PM

Yes, it is, can we move on now

Norg · 10-08-2014, 02:09 AM

Holerbot6000 · 10-08-2014, 02:24 PM

Maybe american youth is destroying Hip-Hop. Back in my day we had the Wu and PE and NWA and now, what? Kanye and Pitbull? Yeesh...

Surell · 10-08-2014, 02:47 PM

^laaame

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