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02-19-2014, 10:50 AM | #21 (permalink) | |||||
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You make it seem like Snoop Dog and Dr. Dre are burning up the charts and are relevant and they are not. You make it seem like they are all over magazines, tv shows etc and they are not. Just because they are little bit more in the public eye than Ice cube does not mean they deserve more credit than him. Quote:
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Janelle Monae won a break through award recently but that award does not change that she is still tremendously underrated overall within the industry. Ice Cube deserves more credit than what he gets. Quote:
I think it is important to acknowledge artists that have pioneered or impacted a genre so the younger generation can be exposed to those artists that paved the way. A young kid who loves hip hop would probably think Jay Z has contributed more to Hip Hop than Ice Cube simply because the industry and media says so. They say he is the best, and has done this and that but he hasn't pioneered what Krs One did or has the same impact in my opinion. I just think it is important for people especially youth to be informed accurately. |
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02-19-2014, 10:52 AM | #22 (permalink) | |
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But do people from the ages of 13-25 know that? |
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02-19-2014, 10:57 AM | #23 (permalink) | |
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He is in the public eye and has successful movies He is a good actor (I actually think he is underrated as an actor too) The word on the street is he is currently working on the official NWA movie. |
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02-19-2014, 11:45 AM | #24 (permalink) | |||||||||
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Really because you seen to keep flip flopping from one to the other when it suits you.
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People have already shown you him getting credit in the Hip Hop community, if he gets less in the mainstream then that's to be expected given his heyday was over 20 years ago, and it'll stay like that until he makes an album with crossover appeal & millions sales to match. Quote:
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When you discover music for the first time it's the current artists you discover first, the old ones you discover later.
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02-19-2014, 12:22 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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02-20-2014, 01:21 PM | #30 (permalink) | ||||||||
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You brought up the exposure and spotlight argument, I didn't. Regardless if Ice Cube is in the spotlight or not he deserves props for what he has done for hip hop. Quote:
Yea that is very true but Snoop Dog and Dr. Dre DO get acknowledged and credited WAY more than Ice Cube for what they have done for hip hop. I have seen documentaries and read writes up where they are given their props. Ice Cube is no where to be found Quote:
I understand this and actually agree with what you are saying but I personally feel that an artist should not have to stay relevant in order to get acknowledged for what they have done for a genre. It is not like Ice Cube came around in the 90s and just followed a bunch of established trends. He helped pioneer a genre and he definitely deserves more props for that than what he gets. It would be nice to see MCs like him or Krs One get more props instead of rappers like Lil Wayne or Jay Z who I feel have done 0 for hip hop but thats my opinion. You always hear about 2pac and Biggie and never anyone else before them who paved the way for them. Quote:
I know my opinion is not going to make the media give Ice Cube more praise LOL I am just simply expressing what I believe and I believe he is underrated as well as a number of MC's from his era. Quote:
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From the industry/hip hop community. They need to stop hyping up Jay Z and start talking about the real pioneers. Quote:
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The media has EVERYTHING to do with this. The media is powerful, influential and manipulative. Unfornately, alot of people do not want to see this happen. Hip Hop is ran by people of the different persuasion now and those people control how Hip Hop is represented. Unfortunately, it is not represented in it's truest light and they rather skip over or erase some of its history. I have a issue with that. You're right but some of these new rappers get a tad bit to much credit for things they did not pioneer or start. I just think it is important for people to get their fair credit. |
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