The Official 'Ice Cube Doesn't Get The Credit He Deserves' Thread - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Rap & Hip-Hop
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-28-2014, 06:39 PM   #121 (permalink)
Trolier Than Thou
 
Forward To Death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,336
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian Benteke View Post
Link me to the post where I said Dizzee was known more worldwide than Ice Cube please.
Link me to the post where I quoted you as saying that Dizzee was known more worldwide than Ice Cube, please. The quote reads "Ice Cube is much, much more popular in the global, overall spectrum" (which he is), and says nothing about the context of your words. I don't see what the problem is here.

All I said was that Ice Cube was and continues to be culturally significant, as evidenced by social media, and I used social media stats to support this.

I questioned whether Dizzee is actually a celebrity, and the only thing you can take from it is that I "don't think he's a household name cos he's not on American telly". Well, no, he doesn't have the social media statistics of the guy who you're saying isn't a household name. By your own logic, he isn't a household name. By my logic, it's questionable whether he is or isn't, as is the case with Ice Cube.

Comprende amigo, or does it need further explanation? I don't think I could break this down any more simply than I already have to be honest.
Forward To Death is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2014, 06:47 PM   #122 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Forward To Death View Post
Yes, just like you can argue that Adolf Hitler was an honorable, immaculate human being. You can argue anything if you're just going based off of opinion. You can say that because Hitler wasn't a total idiot, and that he once was the most powerful man in the world, that he's a good man. Of course, logic would tell you that the only thing that means is that Hitler was reasonably intelligent, manipulative, and had a good army, armed with the best weapons. He was also responsible for the deaths millions of jews and other innocent people, which I think may trump the argument that he's honorable or immaculate. Just like I think that the fact that Ice Cube is considerably popular on a worldwide scale, was the engineer of what is widely considered to be the pinnacle of gangsta rap, and who had considerable solo success, producing one of the biggest hits of the 1990s, all to widespread critical acclaim, kind of trumps the argument that he's underrated. Then you add on top of that the fact that he's been a successful actor, and continues to sell albums, I'd say he's pretty much established his name in the public eye.
Ice Cube is not an international star. He is not even a household name in the states.
Soulflower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2014, 06:59 PM   #123 (permalink)
Trolier Than Thou
 
Forward To Death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,336
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by realtalk92 View Post
Ice Cube is not an international star. He is not even a household name in the states.
Prove it.
Forward To Death is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2014, 07:09 PM   #124 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Forward To Death View Post
Prove it.

Okay I take some of this back, it is possible he may be known internationally but in some countries and I would not say he is a BIG international star like a rapper like Jay Z who is a household name.

Ice Cube is not a brand. He does some movies here and there and was popular during the late 80's/early 90's but he never really did a major cross over album or venture outside of NWA. He does not really market or sell anything outside of his music either.

For a genre that is predominately geared toward a certain demographic that is essential. Most of the rappers that are household names are brands and have done other ventures outside of their rap music. I do not think it is necessary to be honest but it gives more opportunities to appeal to other people and interests.
Soulflower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2014, 09:20 PM   #125 (permalink)
The Aerosol in your Soul
 
Rjinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New South Wales, Australia
Posts: 1,546
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by realtalk92 View Post
Ice Cube is not an international star.
Yes he is. He's well known in Australia.
__________________
last.fm
Rjinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2014, 12:39 AM   #126 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjinn View Post
Yes he is. He's well known in Australia.
Thanks, I realized that which is why I took back some of what I said. I do not think he is a big international star though
Soulflower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2014, 12:42 AM   #127 (permalink)
A.B.N.
 
djchameleon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NY baby
Posts: 11,451
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by realtalk92 View Post
For a genre that is predominately geared toward a certain demographic that is essential. Most of the rappers that are household names are brands and have done other ventures outside of their rap music. I do not think it is necessary to be honest but it gives more opportunities to appeal to other people and interests.
Well, he produces TV shows, screenwrites, directs, acts in movies, has a clothing line of hoodies with headphones in it. I would call that doing other ventures outside of rap music.

The only thing he isn't doing that most other rappers do is that he hasn't put out his own brand of liquor or opened up a club.
__________________
Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxyRollah View Post
IMO I don't know jack-**** though so don't listen to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle View Post
The problem is that most police officers in America are psychopaths.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
You're a terrible dictionary.
djchameleon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2014, 12:43 AM   #128 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djchameleon View Post
Well, he produces TV shows, screenwrites, directs, acts in movies, has a clothing line of hoodies with headphones in it. I would call that doing other ventures outside of rap music.

The only thing he isn't doing that most other rappers do is that he hasn't put out his own brand of liquor or opened up a club.

That is true but none of his ventures has had a massive cross over success.
Soulflower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2014, 12:52 AM   #129 (permalink)
Trolier Than Thou
 
Forward To Death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,336
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by realtalk92 View Post
That is true but none of his ventures has had a massive cross over success.
Is he underrated musically, or just underrated as a person, or what's the deal here? I thought this was about music. Silly me.
Forward To Death is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2014, 01:06 AM   #130 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Forward To Death View Post
Is he underrated musically, or just underrated as a person, or what's the deal here? I thought this was about music. Silly me.
DJ was suggesting that he has had other ventures outside of music and I just simply said that might be true but none of those ventures garnered a major cross success for him.

We are talking about music but you are claiming he is this big mega international star and that is simply not true. He needs to have had a major cross over venture whether it be music or other ventures outside of that in order to be a big international star like you were implying.
Soulflower is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.