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Old 02-28-2014, 07:52 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Yeah but what public eye? In America? Dizzee is big here. Been on telly loads, he's had the same amount of no. 1s as Bowie, he is massive in Australia and all across Europe as well.

Basically he's just not a household name in America.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:30 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Depends on what you consider a celebrity. Is it simply a famous person? I think it requires a little bit of conjecture to determine, to me a celebrity is someone who's consistently in the public eye, and is a household name (To answer question #2). Ice Cube is that, Dizzee Rascal is not even close to that (To answer question #1). I've literally never once seen him on TV, doing endorsements, in movies, on TMZ, nothing. He also has significantly less unique fans than Ice Cube, so I don't even know what he has to do with this argument.
Dizzee was big in America for a little bit then disappeared off the radar. Fix up look sharp was in so many bloody commercials and movie trailers it was ridiculous.
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Dizzee won a BET award in America.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:19 AM   #114 (permalink)
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Dizzee was big in America for a little bit then disappeared off the radar. Fix up look sharp was in so many bloody commercials and movie trailers it was ridiculous.
I have never heard that song in a single commercial or movie trailer.
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I have never heard that song in a single commercial or movie trailer.
I find that hard to believe.

I am on my phone atm but here is one of the promos.

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There are celebrities that are well known that are underrated.

There are celebrities that are less known that are overrated and vice versa.

Typically, celebs that are constantly in the public eye tend to be more overrated
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I find that hard to believe.

I am on my phone atm but here is one of the promos.

Well, believe it because it's true. I've never seen that ad before.
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Yeah but what public eye? In America? Dizzee is big here. Been on telly loads, he's had the same amount of no. 1s as Bowie, he is massive in Australia and all across Europe as well.

Basically he's just not a household name in America.
Ice Cube is much, much more popular in the global, overall spectrum. It's a fact, I already dropped the numbers. Dizzee has hundreds of thousands of followers, Ice Cube has millions. You do the math, mate.
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There are celebrities that are well known that are underrated.

There are celebrities that are less known that are overrated and vice versa.

Typically, celebs that are constantly in the public eye tend to be more overrated
Yes, just like you can argue that Adolf Hitler was an honorable, immaculate human being. You can argue anything if you're just going based off of opinion. You can say that because Hitler wasn't a total idiot, and that he once was the most powerful man in the world, that he's a good man. Of course, logic would tell you that the only thing that means is that Hitler was reasonably intelligent, manipulative, and had a good army, armed with the best weapons. He was also responsible for the deaths millions of jews and other innocent people, which I think may trump the argument that he's honorable or immaculate. Just like I think that the fact that Ice Cube is considerably popular on a worldwide scale, was the engineer of what is widely considered to be the pinnacle of gangsta rap, and who had considerable solo success, producing one of the biggest hits of the 1990s, all to widespread critical acclaim, kind of trumps the argument that he's underrated. Then you add on top of that the fact that he's been a successful actor, and continues to sell albums, I'd say he's pretty much established his name in the public eye.
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Ice Cube is much, much more popular in the global, overall spectrum
Link me to the post where I said Dizzee was known more worldwide than Ice Cube please.

You said Dizz isn't a household name, cos you ain't seen him on American telly.
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