Justin Timberlake is a late 80s/early 90s rapper?

And pretty much everyone knows that. :laughing:

FTD not typing essays as I'm on my phone but regarding the figure come on mate, his music is aimed at that group of people. How many grannies do you know who listen to hip hop?

How many grannies listen to Lady Gaga or Jay-Z? Perhaps you have figures for this that you're holding back.

hahah ok, now I know 'bout it:D


the thing with google is: you can find whatever you want!
if you search for: "Women have a smaller brain than retarted monkeys" you will find results for that!
if you search for: "women are smarter than men" you will find results!

I mean, if a billion people say something stupid, it doesn't get any less stupid just because a billion people said it.

They're in my personal records somewhere.

Regardless, Jay-Z is incomparable to Ice Cube as a celebrity/well known figure and has way more business ventures and other things than Ice Cube. Every fucker knows who he is.


Jay Z rides the subway and explains who he is to an older lady - YouTube

Imagine if that was Ice Cube, would be 'who is this cunt?' not 'Oh I know about Jay-Z'

Maybe that's true in UK, but not in the US. My mother is about the age of that woman and she's definitely more familiar with Ice Cube than Jay-Z. Back in the late 80s and early 90s he was one of the hip hop badboys—always a lightning rod for controversy in the media. Even people my parents' age who have no interest in hip hop remember that and remember who he is.

yeah mate, not arguing about how known he is in America, can imagine he would be.

I'm a bit baffed as to what I'm meant to be discussing with FTD now tbh.

FTD is Dizzee Rascal a household name? Is every single celebrity in the world a household name? Just asking.

I guess it seemed like you were arguing that since the video you posted was something that happened in New York.

I was taking the piss in fairness but fair enough.

Depends on what you consider a celebrity. Is it simply a famous person? I think it requires a little bit of conjecture to determine, to me a celebrity is someone who's consistently in the public eye, and is a household name (To answer question #2). Ice Cube is that, Dizzee Rascal is not even close to that (To answer question #1). I've literally never once seen him on TV, doing endorsements, in movies, on TMZ, nothing. He also has significantly less unique fans than Ice Cube, so I don't even know what he has to do with this argument.