Are white rappers taking over Hip Hop?
 

Not that it really matters because anyone can be a part of a musical genre, but I've seen this anti white rapper sentiment in many discussions of hip hop on other forums.

You have artists like Lord Jamar who complain about whites slowly taking over the hip hop industry and some others who say that white privilege is the reason whites are succeeding in Rap, which makes no sense in the first place because every famous rapper with the exception of Eminem, Macklemore, and a few one hit wonders like Asher Roth or Vanilla Ice, has been black.

So are white rappers going to take over the rap industry, and if so, why is there such a fear in the Hip Hop community over that? Do they believe that it will destroy the culture of the genre?

I'd like to hear your thoughts.

who cares...if the music is good, that is all that matters.

No.

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qft

Whites make up about 80% of the population. Blacks make up less than 15%*. Why would it be surprising if white rappers ever began to outnumber black rappers?

*USA QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Lmao not all rappers are American?!

True. But we don't get a whole lot of music from Africa over here in America/Europe as far as I know.

I find that discussions about race have a lot of merit, and generally lead to positive results for everyone.

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Posting a vid of an African rapper doesn't have any meaning to the Western music market, which is obviously what the OP was talking about. #goalpostmoving

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No and never will cause race stereotypes make it easier for blacks to be successful in rap and I don't see that changin

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there are probably more rappers in korea than europe or africa

man i don't know what i'd do without Froggy Fresh

Rap has a lot of variety and different cultures to pin it on race these days.

Well i can only name a handful of good white rappers does that answer your question?

but here is a crazy theory

i think black ppl don't care much about the skin tone of rappers i think they care about the struggle

their "street cred" as they say..
it's very much like the saying "To play the blues you have to pay your dues" if they see a suburban white boy getting a head start in the rap game simply because white rappers are scarce they are bound to call them out

Not to mention black ppl are wary of white ppl to begin with (Slavery will do that)

rapping is not all about skills it's also about your background
This is why all these black rappers have to say they were drug dealers in real life before they became rappers

it doesn't even matter if it's f*ckin true or not if you don't have some sorta poverty ridden background you got no street cred

especially in a genre like rap and hip hop which is 90% a rag to riches story were even the more artsy kinda rappers are not above plugging the hood

Wtf's
 

Does it really matter? Seriously, what counts the most is the talent, the skill, the art of their gift in sharing their craft to the ones that are down to listen. Music speaks for itself not the color of their skin nor race/etc.

i dunno about that i mean look at mac miller

some blakc ppl see hip hop as 'theirs' or whatever

@butthead

i had to look up Mac miller i didn't know him and i saw this vid called 'Nikes on my feet' which didn't impress me much know any better songs?

i liked his flow but his lyrics and his style seem to be emulating the flow of black rappers.. the song was full of pretentiously urban references hell the title alone is 'Nikes on my feet'

i wanna mention eminem because i think he is one of the few respected white rappers

When eminen broke into the scene and started as slim shady he didn't start by acting all ghetto and gansta he started by making fun of himself.. even in his days were he was rap battling black rappers at house parties (and slaying most of them) he didn't sound like a copy of a black rapper he had his own flow which goes beyond black or white you relate to how clever he is and what he is saying and his approach

It was unique, it's still is

i think this is why black rappers respect him and actually fear him (lyrically)

Pittsburgh is the suburbs?

I highly doubt mac had it rough. He grew up in a highly white area with 2 parents in neighborhood that made good money. I think so many rappers are fake that its hard for any of em to call anyone out without offending someone they're cool with or gave worked with

Agree, rappers talk so much rubbish.

I don't think Mac has ever claimed that he grew up living a hard, rough lifestyle though.

Well I'm confused. I brought up mac cause francis said about black rsppers respectin street cred and mac seems respected and hasn't had tbe struggle francis talked about

He didn't have it rough at all. His dad is an architect and his moms a nurse I believe. But he did make mix tapes that got him noticed because of his skills on the mic. He even placed in local area MC Competitions. I think rap is more about putting in work then having street cred. I find the rap game gets tiresome when it gets watered down with the ordinary joes, rap needs a re-birth of conscious lyrics acts.

He is also a stoner that ran in those circles and grew up with Wiz Khalifa. So he gets his pass that way.

White privileged is the reason why rap music is so ****ty today on the mainstream front. It has been corrupted by the government and the powers that be which is why it is not a tool of "free expression" like it once was. The rap music we hear today on the radio has a lot to do with the head white man behind the scenes controlling everything. The issue is much bigger than just "white" rappers.

i dont really buy it

if ya wanna make a race argument id say its more watered down at the top cause its easier listenin for suburban white kids and black kids who think thug culture is black culture and buy into the image

But that is why it is water down

Most of the corporate CEO's of these music companies and record labels are all white men.

These same white men perpetuate these false themes and ideals in popular rap music today..... themes that have nothing to do with hip hop.

It is controlled...

you think the black rappers arent willingly goin along with the false images?? theyre in on it too, its their moneymaker

Well of course they are...
Its their money maker like you said and they unfortunately go along with it and your right I point the finger at them too for going along with these stereotypes and tirades of Black exploitation.

They dont have a choice on those major mainstream labels.

Record companies are the managers and the artists are the employee's for those mainstream labels.

That's why you have MC's like Mos Def, Krs One, Nas etc who do their own thing because they want control over their output. Thats why I stan so hard for MC's like them, MC's who stay true to hip hop.

Maybe it is different here in the UK, but I would say 80% of mainstream rap you hear/see is made by black men.

It's still predominantly black in the US. Whitey taking over rap = irrational paranoid BS. Not to derail the thread but white people aren't the only ones with a ****ed up history. See: Armenian Genocide, Japanese war crimes circa WW2, racism against Irish immigrants in the US, Portugese Inquisition... the list goes on and it's not like the tribes of Africa were entirely friendly with each other either. They're not entirely friendly with each other NOW. I could be wrong but it seems every society has it's fair share of skeletons in the closet.

A case could be made that mainstream Hip-Hop and Rap is watered down and disingenuous but there's plenty of music out there by black and white artists that's still great. Hip-Hop and Rap aren't the only genres being watered down, either. R&B hardly has any actual musicianship anymore. Rock music... good god man don't get me started. And what the hell happened to Jazz?

I just think a lot of people are just ignorant about the history of hip hop and how hip hop was created. A lot of these so called "hip hop" heads that claim they know hip hop really don't know the first thing about it.

Any REAL hip hop fan knows that the mess that is being force fed to us on the radio via Clear Channel/Viacom is NOT real hip hop.

Yes, the white man in the big black chair is running the show and calling the shots when it comes to rap music that get spins on the radio (call me whatever you want but its the truth).

I am not going to sit here and pretend that "bling bling", "rims", "money, cars" etc all these false stereotypes are real reflections of the hip hop culture when it isn't.

In saying that does not make anybody racist or anti- white. Unfortunately the truth is a b%$# but it is the truth nonetheless.

"the white man"

Saying **** like that is kind of racist, sorry. "The white man in the big black chair is running the show" isn't any different from saying "black man steal TVs and cars." Yeah, there are white people who **** everyone's **** up. There's also black men who steal ****. Ethnicity has nothing to do with it and to lump everyone in the same boat is insulting and unfair.

Oh please..

I did not say any racial slurs or make any racial comments so you can save this for the real racists.

I am not lumping anybody. All I simply argued was that hip hop on the mainstream front is being controlled and these rappers are not the ones writing the lyrics and pushing these stereotypes, the corporations are whom are primarily ran by white men. That's not being a racist in pointing that statistic out. You can search it for it for yourself on the internet.


I'll tell you what IS racist though... whats racist are the millions of rap songs talking about bitches, n%$# and hoes and NOBODY says nothing about that.

Thats whats racist!

You wanna talk about somebody being racist then boycott Viacom, boycott BET, boycott the radio for pushing this false propaganda that is destroying the black community and hip hop.