Are White Rappers Guests in Hip Hop?

4gotmyPW · 09-25-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

We already know Eminem is over hyped. So is Jay-Z and you used to have a sig saying he is a genius ffs

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There are other great white rappers, El-P would have been the first I named.

No, it's not the only reason. This is just nonsense.

There are probably equal numbers of retards who say Em is basically shit because he's sold a lot of records, which is exactly what you're doing.

Eminem is a high level spitter, not much else.

Jay deserves his hype b/c unlike Em he lives up to his hype in all aspects. Jay is a lyrics, flow & delivery are on par with genius, I can't say the same for Em. I can't even quote one of Em's line, nothing he's ever said is worthy of quotation or memorization. That drug use has taken it's toll.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-25-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 4gotmyPW

Jay deserves his hype b/c unlike Em he lives up to his hype in all aspects. Jay is a lyrics, flow & delivery are on par with genius, I can't say the same for Em. I can't even quote one of Em's line, nothing he's ever said is worthy of quotation or memorization. That drug use has taken it's toll.

Is he fuck. Jay-Z does not live up to the hype at all, MCHG lived up to the hype? Jay-Z is average, Eminem made him look a cunt on his own song.

4gotmyPW · 09-25-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

Is it fuck. Jay-Z does not live up to the hype at all, MCHG lived up to the hype? Jay-Z is average, Eminem made him look a cunt on his own song.

Over time drug use can affect one's judgment, hence your confusion.

& yes MCHG does live up to the his hype.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-25-2013, 10:15 AM

MCHG was an awful album. Take the opening track for example, I nearly fell over under the weight of my own cringe at that track. Such lines as 'I love you so much', 'You're so unfair'

, this is the toss Jay-Z is putting out. Don't get me started on that track with Beyoncé either, guy is insecure as ****. That album was a creatively bankrupt piece of ****, he played it safe yet again, which is all he's ever done.

Jay-Z is a jack of all trades rapper, he hasn't mastered any aspect of it (Eminem has mastered flow). All Jay-Z does is make his music accessible, and you're talking about people only rating Eminem because of sales?

Also lol at ignoring that track I posted.

djchameleon · 09-25-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

MCHG was an awful album. Take the opening track for example, I nearly fell over under the weight of my own cringe at that track. Such lines as 'I love you so much', 'You're so unfair'

, this is the toss Jay-Z is putting out.

I don't think you understand how deep the track "Holy Grail" actually is. You are too busy hating a few cliched lines that you missed the entire point of the track.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-25-2013, 10:22 AM

It's about fame. Very deep.

4gotmyPW · 09-25-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

That album was a creatively bankrupt piece of ****, he played it safe yet again, which is all he's ever done.

Jay-Z is a jack of all trades rapper, he hasn't mastered any aspect of it (Eminem has mastered flow). All Jay-Z does is make his music accessible, and you're talking about people only rating Eminem because of sales?

Also lol at ignoring that track I posted.

@ "That album was a creatively bankrupt piece of ****"

Slavery, art, fame, family, love, drugs, business are just are few of the topics he discussed & that you define as a "bankrupt piece of ****"

"Eminem has mastered flow"

I'm actually baffled that someone can say this & want to be taken seriously. Every time I hear an Em song I immediately turn down the volume b/c regardless of what the beat sounds like I already know that all Em will do is yell and scream like he's tweaking.

So I'll ask you again do you even know what flow is, b/c if you think Em's flow is good, you are completely delusional.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-25-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 4gotmyPW

@ "That album was a creatively bankrupt piece of ****"

Slavery, art, fame, family, love, drugs, business are just are few of the topics he discussed & that you define as a "bankrupt piece of ****"

Yeah cos none of those topics have ever been discussed before on Hip-Hop albums.

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"Eminem has mastered flow"

I'm actually baffled that someone can say this & want to be taken seriously. Every time I hear an Em song I immediately turn down the volume b/c regardless of what the beat sounds like I already know that all Em will do is yell and scream like he's tweaking.

That's bollocks.

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So I'll ask you again do you even know what flow is, b/c if you think Em's flow is good, you are completely delusional.

Eminem's flow is good.

Eminem - Infinite - YouTube

Forward To Death · 09-25-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4gotmyPW

Comprehend what you read b/c I stated that the only reason people view him as credible is b/c of his $ale$ and since society/the average retard off the street views sales/popularity as the bench mark for greatness that is the aguement that is made in Em's defense. However when you look at his discography, lyrics, flow & delivery it does not warrant such hype.

You said Em was the only one because of record sales, but that his flow/lyrics are shat. I'm not taking this out of context.

You need to decided which one you're going to argue.

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So I have to say Em is the best b/c I'm white, lol foh w/ that backwards logic

You made the logic up in your head. I'll let you think about it.

Hint: I never said who I thought was the best rapper.

4gotmyPW · 09-25-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

You said Em was the only one because of record sales, but that his flow/lyrics are shat. I'm not taking this out of context.

You need to decided which one you're going to argue.

You made the logic up in your head. I'll let you think about it.

Hint: I never said who I thought was the best rapper.

Only one what? don't respond until you comprehend this he is the only white rapper the masses consider credible only b/c of his $ales even though his "talent" (& I use that word loosely b/c there's nothing special about his discography) does not warrant the hype.

Besides pulling a

card ^that is the easiety way that I can explain it 2 u, but you won't get it so

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09-25-2013, 10:15 AM	#34 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	MCHG was an awful album. Take the opening track for example, I nearly fell over under the weight of my own cringe at that track. Such lines as 'I love you so much', 'You're so unfair' , this is the toss Jay-Z is putting out. Don't get me started on that track with Beyoncé either, guy is insecure as **. That album was a creatively bankrupt piece of **, he played it safe yet again, which is all he's ever done. Jay-Z is a jack of all trades rapper, he hasn't mastered any aspect of it (Eminem has mastered flow). All Jay-Z does is make his music accessible, and you're talking about people only rating Eminem because of sales? Also lol at ignoring that track I posted.

09-25-2013, 10:22 AM	#36 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	It's about fame. Very deep.