Kendrick Lamar on Big Sean's "Control" and Hip Hop Universe Goes Crazy

Arya Stark · 08-13-2013, 08:03 AM

He just stirred **** up a little. I didn't want this to be in the Kendrick Lamar thread because it deserves some **** of his own. He just called everyone out and called himself "King of New York"

Everyone is going crazy. The twitterverse is going crazy, the black community, EVERYONE who is anyone in rap and hip hop needs to watch out.

Quote:

[Bridge: Kendrick Lamar]
Miscellaneous minds are never explainin' their minds
Devilish grin for my alias aliens to respond
Peddlin' sin, thinkin' maybe when you get old you realize
I'm not gonna fold or demise
(I don't smoke crack, mother****er I sell it!)
Everything I rap is a quarter piece to your melon
So if you have a relapse, just relax and pop in my disc
Don't pop me no ****ing pill, I'mma a pop you and give you this

[Verse 2: Kendrick Lamar]
Tell Flex to drop a bomb on this ****
So many bombs, ring the alarm like Vietnam in this ****
So many bombs, make Farrakhan think Saddam in this bitch
One at a time, I line 'em up and bomb on they mom
While she watchin' the kids
I'm in a destruction mode if the gold exists
I'm important like the pope, I'm a muslim on pork
I'm Makaveli's offspring, I'm the king of New York
King of the Coast, one hand, I juggle them both
The juggernaut's all in your jugular, you take me for jokes
Live in the basement, church pews and funeral faces
Cartier bracelets for my women friends I'm in Vegas
Who the **** y'all thought it's supposed to be?
If Phil Jackson came back, still no coachin' me
I'm uncoachable, I'm unsociable
**** y'all clubs, **** y'all pictures, your Instagram can gobble these nuts
Gobble dick up 'til you hiccup, my big homie Kurupt
This the same flow that put the rap game on a crutch
I've seen niggas transform like villain Decepticons
Mollies'll prolly turn these niggas to ****in' Lindsay Lohan
A bunch of rich ass white girls lookin' for parties
Playin with Barbies, wreck the Porsche before you give 'em the car key
Judge me 'til the monarchy, blessings to Paul McCartney
You called me a black Beatle, I'm either that or a Marley
(I don't smoke crack mother****er I sell it)
I'm dressed in all black, this is not for the fan of Elvis
I'm aimin' straight for your pelvis, you can't stomach me
You plan on stumpin' me? Bitch I’ve been jumped before you put a gun on me
Bitch I put one on yours, I'm Sean Connery
James Bonding with none of you niggas, climbing 100 mil in front of me
And I'm gonna get it even if you're in the way
And if you're in it, better run for Pete's sake
I heard the barbershops be in great debates all the time
Bout who's the best MC? Kendrick, Jigga and Nas
Eminem, Andre 3000, the rest of y'all
New niggas just new niggas, don't get involved
And I ain't rockin no more designer ****
White T’s and Nike Cortez, this is red Corvettes anonymous
I'm usually homeboys with the same niggas I'm rhymin' wit
But this is hip hop and them niggas should know what time it is
And that goes for Jermaine Cole, Big KRIT, Wale
Pusha T, Meek Millz, A$AP Rocky, Drake
Big Sean, Jay Electron', Tyler, Mac Miller
I got love for you all but I'm tryna murder you niggas
Tryna make sure your core fans never heard of you niggas
They dont wanna hear not one more noun or verb from you niggas
What is competition? I'm tryna raise the bar high
Who tryna jump and get it? You better off tryna skydive
Out the exit window of 5 G5’s with 5 grand
With your granddad as the pilot he drunk as **** tryna land
With the hand full of arthritis and popping prosthetic leg
Bumpin Pac in the cockpit so the **** that pops in his head
Is an option of violence, someone heard the stewardess said
That your parachute is a latex condom hooked to a dread

Need I say more?

djchameleon · 08-13-2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

He just stirred **** up a little. I didn't want this to be in the Kendrick Lamar thread because it deserves some **** of his own. He just called everyone out and called himself "King of New York"

Everyone is going crazy. The twitterverse is going crazy, the black community, EVERYONE who is anyone in rap and hip hop needs to watch out.

Need I say more?

OMFG, what!? but why!? and ummm

I know I said I would cut back on gifs in the music area but good grief this .gif is appropriate and relevant

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 08-13-2013, 08:39 AM

lol @ kendrick.

goin at cole, krit, mac, etc is one thing but comparing yourself to em, hova, and nas is just absurd. i now like kendrick less than i did before i heard that song

djchameleon · 08-13-2013, 08:40 AM

Also, did anyone else notice how much he sounded like DMX at parts?

I think I get why he's doing it. He just wants to stir up stuff and create some fake beef for the fans. I don't think he honestly believes any of the crap that he said.

Arya Stark · 08-13-2013, 08:42 AM

He's already being called the King of L.A.
He's one of the best new rappers out there, considered to be one of the best lyricists.

I don't doubt that many rappers are actually threatened by this.

14232949 · 08-13-2013, 09:07 AM

But Kendrick is better than everyone he mentioned with possibly the exception of K.R.I.T and Jay Electronica but K.R.I.T would never get himself involved in that sh*t. He's too level headed. And Electronica's been MIA for some time.

As for putting himself in the same category as Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000 he's already better than Eminem. Andre's needing to drop a solo album to remind everyone why he's rated so highly. He's been making a transition into acting recently.
Jay's last album wasn't that great neither was Nas's so in recent form I don't see why it's so ridiculous for Kendrick to consider himself in that category. If Kendrick drops another album the same quality as his last two (8.0 and GKMC) he WILL be a top 5 MC. If not pushing for GOAT.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 08-13-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

But Kendrick is better than everyone he mentioned with possibly the exception of K.R.I.T and Jay Electronica but K.R.I.T would never get himself involved in that sh*t. He's too level headed. And Electronica's been MIA for some time.

As for putting himself in the same category as Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000 he's already better than Eminem. Andre's needing to drop a solo album to remind everyone why he's rated so highly. He's been making a transition into acting recently.
Jay's last album wasn't that great neither was Nas's so in recent form I don't see why it's so ridiculous for Kendrick to consider himself in that category. If Kendrick drops another album the same quality as his last two (8.0 and GKMC) he WILL be a top 5 MC. If not pushing for GOAT.

so then KRIT is pushing for GOAT too???? dude youre makin absurd statements right now.

first off andre has aways been over rated for me but thats neither here nor there

kendrick isn't on eminems level. not even close, at all. for you or anyone else to compare kendrick to guys like jay, nas, and em is just pure insanity and i cant believe ppl in this world have that thought in their brains. kendrick is relatively new, those guys have all put in 15 yrs in the game with extensive catalogs and classic albums. reasonable doubt, blueprint, SSLP, MMLP, illmatic etc. time will tell if 8.0 or gkmc will be a classic but i think you are really jumpin the gun to put him in the category of those guys. i think those 3 are in elite category.

i didnt even listen to all of jays new album yet but i thought nas's was actually alright even tho the subject matter got boring by the end of the album.

Arya Stark · 08-13-2013, 09:46 AM

People are just saying that some of the rappers in the game like Jay-Z are getting old. Not my words. Paraphrased from Hot 97.

I think more people are just surprised that he became so intense all of a sudden, I don't really think they think it's "ridiculous."

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 08-13-2013, 09:54 AM

the guys he mentioned ARE old, andre, jay, nas, em. all at different points of how relevant they still are within todays rap game

so there is and has been a new generation so to speak of rappers the past few years, kendrick being on of the bes of that group, but quite frankly its not only stupid but kinda insulting to those guys whove done work for 15 yrs for some guy with 2 albums under his belt to be comparing themselves to him. kendrick hasnt dropped an illmatic, kendrick didnt have the impact that em did when he burst on the scene, kendrick didnt build an empire like hova.

im tired of these young dudes not tryna earn their stripes. you wanna be the best then put in work instead of just talkin about it. nobody wanna work for anything anymore they just just wanna yell and holler about how good they are til foolish ppl start believing it. like i said, those dudes put in 15 + years with changing styles, classic albums, and huge catalogs. for him to be sayin this is real arrogant of him if he truly believes what he says, which i doubt is the case anways

14232949 · 08-13-2013, 09:55 AM

Eminem's a joke. Always has been, based on skills alone he never would have taken off had he not been white. He got the fanbase and hype he did because he was marketable as an underdog (I.E. the 8 mile)

Andre is not at all overrated, the guy has the most insane flow perhaps of all time the way he effortlessly strings complex lines together and they just float off his tongue is mesmerizing.

I don't think Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt are any better than GKMC, which are considered to be the two best works of Jay and Nas respectively. As for greatness being judged purely on who's been around the longest time, people who are absolutely terrible like DMX would be in the running.

If people are able to put Notorious BIG in their Top 5's after two albums, why not Kendrick?

As for this whole thing about 'classics' I don't buy into it. You're telling me just because one album is older than another it is better? If so Grandmaster Flash would never be knocked off the hip-hop totem pole. It's a ridiculous criteria to judge anything by. An album doesn't get any better after its release, it doesn't suddenly take on a life of its own and become something different so the age of it is irrelevant when discussing which is simply better.

As for Big K.R.I.T as an actual rapper he's as skilled as K.Dot, that's what I'm saying. K.R.I.T just hasn't had the breakout record yet to truly elevate him. But riddle me this, how is it that people with less extensive discographies like Biggie manage to skip your "more equals better" logic.

If we're talking who's the better rapper for example Big L was better than Jay-Z, but because Jay-Z has been alive longer and put out more records that makes Jay better in your eyes?

08-13-2013, 08:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	lol @ kendrick. goin at cole, krit, mac, etc is one thing but comparing yourself to em, hova, and nas is just absurd. i now like kendrick less than i did before i heard that song

08-13-2013, 09:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	But Kendrick is better than everyone he mentioned with possibly the exception of K.R.I.T and Jay Electronica but K.R.I.T would never get himself involved in that sh*t. He's too level headed. And Electronica's been MIA for some time. As for putting himself in the same category as Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000 he's already better than Eminem. Andre's needing to drop a solo album to remind everyone why he's rated so highly. He's been making a transition into acting recently. Jay's last album wasn't that great neither was Nas's so in recent form I don't see why it's so ridiculous for Kendrick to consider himself in that category. If Kendrick drops another album the same quality as his last two (8.0 and GKMC) he WILL be a top 5 MC. If not pushing for GOAT.

08-13-2013, 09:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	the guys he mentioned ARE old, andre, jay, nas, em. all at different points of how relevant they still are within todays rap game so there is and has been a new generation so to speak of rappers the past few years, kendrick being on of the bes of that group, but quite frankly its not only stupid but kinda insulting to those guys whove done work for 15 yrs for some guy with 2 albums under his belt to be comparing themselves to him. kendrick hasnt dropped an illmatic, kendrick didnt have the impact that em did when he burst on the scene, kendrick didnt build an empire like hova. im tired of these young dudes not tryna earn their stripes. you wanna be the best then put in work instead of just talkin about it. nobody wanna work for anything anymore they just just wanna yell and holler about how good they are til foolish ppl start believing it. like i said, those dudes put in 15 + years with changing styles, classic albums, and huge catalogs. for him to be sayin this is real arrogant of him if he truly believes what he says, which i doubt is the case anways

08-13-2013, 09:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	Eminem's a joke. Always has been, based on skills alone he never would have taken off had he not been white. He got the fanbase and hype he did because he was marketable as an underdog (I.E. the 8 mile) Andre is not at all overrated, the guy has the most insane flow perhaps of all time the way he effortlessly strings complex lines together and they just float off his tongue is mesmerizing. I don't think Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt are any better than GKMC, which are considered to be the two best works of Jay and Nas respectively. As for greatness being judged purely on who's been around the longest time, people who are absolutely terrible like DMX would be in the running. If people are able to put Notorious BIG in their Top 5's after two albums, why not Kendrick? As for this whole thing about 'classics' I don't buy into it. You're telling me just because one album is older than another it is better? If so Grandmaster Flash would never be knocked off the hip-hop totem pole. It's a ridiculous criteria to judge anything by. An album doesn't get any better after its release, it doesn't suddenly take on a life of its own and become something different so the age of it is irrelevant when discussing which is simply better. As for Big K.R.I.T as an actual rapper he's as skilled as K.Dot, that's what I'm saying. K.R.I.T just hasn't had the breakout record yet to truly elevate him. But riddle me this, how is it that people with less extensive discographies like Biggie manage to skip your "more equals better" logic. If we're talking who's the better rapper for example Big L was better than Jay-Z, but because Jay-Z has been alive longer and put out more records that makes Jay better in your eyes?