Jay-z names his album “Magna Carta Holy Grail”

djchameleon · 07-20-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

How am I reading between the lines when you called me a "hater" simply because I gave my opinion on the new album? LOL There is no reading in between the lines. You said what you said and made it clear. You straight up bashed me and ANYBODY who has any sort of criticism on Jay Z and yea thats childish because everyone is not obligated to like his music. YOU like it... fine whatever I dont care but dont label other people a hater just because they dont.

There you go again putting words in my mouth. I didn't say that anyone that hates the album is a hater. Just you specifically and it's not because of this album it's the fact that you don't that super long discussion where you established your hate.

I don't care if people don't like this specific album or hold an opinion different than mines. It's just that you tend to slag off Jay easily because you hate him and wouldn't even give any new work of his a chance before forming a proper opinion.

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

Second, I dont hate "Jay Z" but since you have a childish way of thinking you think everyone who doesnt care for his music "hates him". I dont know him personally to hate him as you say. I just gave an opinion on the man's music because that is the only thing I can judge.

Again you choose to insult me AND put words in my mouth. No, I don't think that everyone that doesn't care for his music hates him.

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

lol Why does everyone have to be a "hater" to you who doesnt like his music? You sound like a overzealous stan. Did you ever stop to think that maybe people just dont care for his music? That IS okay ya know? That doesnt necessarily make them a "hater" as you say especially if they are being constructive. I was actually being humorous with that post I made but I am usually constructive and objective with my posts.

You don't know me, I'm far from a Jay Z stan. I know that people don't like his music. Your attempt at humor just came off as a typical "hater" type of statement and that's why it was received as such from me especially with your past discussions about him in general.

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

You obviously DO care about my opinion since you feel its important enough to call me a "hater" because I dont like his new album. I dont see what my critique on this album has to do with my opinion on his overall catalogue.

I didn't call you a hater of you not liking this new album. I called you one based off of that comment plus your past discussions related to him.

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Like I said, you dont dictate how people express their opinion on message boards or what they say. Now if you had said something like "Did you even listen to the album or what songs did you listen too" instead of just making an assumption that I didnt listen to the album that would have been more appropiate. AFTER listening to the tracks I came to that conclusion that it IS the same formula and material so I simply expressed that, period. YOU are the only one that seems to find issue with that no one else here does.

Alright now I see the problem, we both decided to make statements that weren't as critical as they could have been and that's what led to this miscommunication.

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Its just an opinion hun. That is MY opinion and you can not change that. You need to accept that.

I'm not trying to change your opinion and I know it's your opinion.

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I think you just think I am a "hater" in your mind just because of a previous discussion I had with another poster so YOU assumed that everytime I have an opinion on Jay Z Im hating on him and his music lol I really dont care but I think that it is bad to label people haters because they dont particularly care for a certain type of music that you like. Its childish.

As I have already stated earlier in this post. It wasn't just a one off blanket statement to call you a hater because you don't like this particular album.

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I dont take back a single word I said. Im not going to take back my opinion to fit how you think my opinion should be expressed.

I don't want you to take back anything you said. You are free to express your opinions but when they come off the way your intial statement does then expect to be responded in kind with a similar type of statement. It's just like going into a thread and saying such and such is overrated and walking away without going into details about why you don't like it and why you came to that conclusion.