Scarlett O'Hara

Hmmm. That's a good point. But Paul does like it when I talk explicitly about masturbation so I don't know why he doesn't like what she's saying.

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Arya Stark

You often say it in a way that is flirtatious and open to conversation and she says it in a way that says "**** off."
Just from what I've read regarding males and power, they don't like when a woman is not sexually available to them.

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Scarlett O'Hara

You're right, my way is definitely flirtatious. I'd never want to tell anyone to **** off that way.

I haven't read much about that kind of thing, but don't guys like it when girls are playing hard to get?

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Arya Stark

Only when they know the girl is "playing."
In this case, the likelihood of getting with her is zero.
But she still dares to talk about her VAGINA.
Oh god the HORROR. ;P

Just like with Beyonce. People hated that she was dancing and moving on stage at the Superbowl because it wasn't "appropriate." But as soon as the cheerleaders do it, for entertainment and for the men of football, it was just fine.

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Scarlett O'Hara

Okay, I see what you're saying.

Yeah I thought that was ridiculous that people got upset over Beyonce being "too sexy".

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Paul Smeenus

I also said that I feel exactly the same way when men speak in such a dehumanizing tone. It's the way it's said.

But I do need to post a correction, the video I saw recently was not IA, it was this




Forgive my ignorance on this genre

djchameleon

Hooray for clinical textbook sweeping generalizations.

I think it boils down to more PS doesn't necessarily like the genre so it's easier to get agitated by her lyrics and write them off as being too vulgar to listen to. It has nothing to do with him wanting to get with her especially when he feels she's only moderately attractive.

The difference between Beyonce being up on the main stage and the cheerleaders on the sideline is that when people are viewing this at home. The cheerleaders only get a short 15 sec. shot right before commercials and that's about it. They don't get prolonged time for viewers at home.

ugh Don't even get me started on that Lil Debbie video. First off, I really hate the word "ratchet" meaning improper/wrong and essentially just taking over the place of ghetto/slut to some people.

Secondly , it feels really ****ed up that all of her background dancers are black and she's talking about them being her "Ratchet Bitches" even if she's not referring to them specifically the video makes it appear like she is.

And geez, she does that sad looking little booty shake near the end that just looks awful. The only thing I like about the song is the instrumental but I won't willing listen to that song again.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.

Arya Stark

Oh please, you're trying to tell me you like when a woman isn't sexually available to you?
I have more than one example of you personally that shows otherwise.

What my main point was was that PS speaks in vulgar terms all of the time, and likes it when Vanilla does it as well, so there is obviously something different about this artist!

I don't care anyway, this rapper is a racist and I'm standing up for strong women, not women who bring others down.

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djchameleon

I'm glad that you think I represent every man in this world but those examples don't relate to other men.

My main point is you seemed to skip over him saying that he doesn't like it when men do it either in the same way through this particular type of hip hop. You just basically tried to call him sexist in an indirect way.

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Arya Stark

I'm not going to argue with this about you, the conversation was between two ladies, and I was suggesting that he MIGHT be plagued by this stereotype, not that he definitely was.

And I then was confused by the fact that someone so vulgar in his own speech is so bothered when others speak about it.

I then moved to the argument that many people feel this way, and wondered why.
This isn't only about one member or two but instead about the idea of sex being SO taboo.

I would tell you to read between the lines but everything was spelled out and you chose to take my generalization as the main aspect of the conversation, although Vanilla and I had moved on to a different aspect of the topic.

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