Top 5 MCs (Not producers! AKA Dre) (lyrics, singer, country, hardcore)

Rockafella Skank · 02-23-2004, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lopezand

I dont have a problem with people saying that they enjoy 50. I do have a problem when people start saying that he is a good lyricist and that he is a top 5 MC of all time, because then that just means you havent listened to anything besides the Angie Martinez hour on HOT 97, and you haven't watched anything besides TRL on MTV. Peace.

I couldn't agree more. It's not that I don't like listening to the occasional 50 Cent song, but that he doesn't deserve any serious recognition. He was all pissed that he didn't get a grammy -- so funny. Well, duh, you have no talent.

Ante_Up · 02-23-2004, 07:29 PM

50 is straight up wack...
amyone who thinks that he is in a top 5 list is a mad newjack...

Anyways...i like lopezand's list, except it definatly needs Rakim in it, and Pun is up there too...decent list though

JackJeckel · 02-23-2004, 09:47 PM

50 doesn't even write all of his lyrics. Em writes, and Dr. Dre writes (part of the problem). "He raps what he knows about?" I mean, personally I haven't heard in the news anything about 50 Cent shooting anyone lately, or him robbing any other rappers, and that is what he raps about.

Yes he does write his own lyrics... dude, he ghostwrites for Dre, not the other way around

Anyhoo while he's not even close to a top 5 lyricist hes damn good at what he does

Plus, a lot of people have only heard Get Rich Or Die Trying and base their decisions off that... Power of the Dollar, Guess Who's Back were both ILL CD's, and after GRoDT he's consistently been putting out mixtape **** (G Unit Radio) and tons of unreleased songs... he's good

Anyways top 5

Big L
Guru
Ghostface Killah
Immortal Technique
Breezly Brewin

those are not my top 5 of all time, just the 5 im most feeling now... theres no way im going to narrow down ALL the mc's i know to top 5.

Rockafella Skank · 02-23-2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JackJeckel

Anyways top 5

Big L
Guru
Ghostface Killah
Immortal Technique
Breezly Brewin

Definitely feeling Guru. Good pick there.

Lopezand · 02-23-2004, 11:48 PM

Im pretty sure they all ghostwrite for each other. But he doesn't write that much for dre, because how much does dre really rap on anything? Also, just because he puts out "mixtape ****" all the time, it doesn't mean that any of that is actually good.

exasko · 02-23-2004, 11:57 PM

what makes a good MC in your minds?

Rockafella Skank · 02-24-2004, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by exasko

what makes a good MC in your minds?

A good MC is:

Writes meaningful, or original lyrics. (Rapping about cars, money, etc., does not fall under meaningful or original.)
Has their own unique voice.
Has perfect flow. (This means that when they rap on a beat they rap perfectly on time.)
Can freestyle. (Basically, do they need 100 tries in the studio or can they do it just whenever they want?)
Can do well with different Producers. (This means can they do well with lots of different beats and styles.)

That's the core of what makes a good MC to me.

exasko · 02-24-2004, 01:02 AM

Pac can't free style.. he sucked at it, he could compose like a god but free style he couldn't really do well...

Pac rapped about cars.. bitches, hoes.. he has done that...

50cent... lyrics are meanin ful.. Many Men.. holds great meaning about his life... he has a flow, and I have heard some of Pac's song which flow really was weak...

50cent is a good MC.. just have to set aside and give him time..

Rockafella Skank · 02-24-2004, 01:03 AM

I never said I thought 2Pac was a good MC. He's a good rapper, but not a good MC. (Also, I've heard some of 2Pac's freestyles and they're actually not bad. But that's besides the point.)

Lopezand · 02-24-2004, 10:39 AM

If by Pac rapping about "Cars money and hoes" you mean songs like "Picture me Rollin" I consider that a much better song than "Many Men." You also have to take into context what was going on in society at that time and also in Pac's life. You also have to take into consideration that a lot of the "gangsta rap" that pac started to spit towards the end of his career was highly influenced by Suge Knight and Death Row Records. I love pac, I dont consider him on my top 5 MC list though (or at least right now).

50 Cent is rapping about cars money and hoes in a much different way. He is just saying look at what I got. This is how I roll to get the honies. Stuff like that. I think that there is a large difference. As I said before and numerous times, I dont hate 50 Cent. He has songs that I listen to and enjoy. He has some rhymes that I can listen to. But I enjoy them as what they are. He is by no means a very good lyricist. He is by no means a top 5 MC out right now. He claims that he is so good, but he is comparing himself to the other mainstream rappers out right now. Lets be real 95% of the other "mainstream" rappers are horrible also. To say that he is one of the best in the game is way too premature and way too ridiculous. Once again, I dont hate 50 Cent, he has songs I can listen to, but I can not give him credit as an elite MC right now, and I dont think anyone should. And if you read my other posts, I know about his previous stuff too, so please dont use that again.

02-23-2004, 07:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ante_Up Hip Hop Fiend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 135	50 is straight up wack... amyone who thinks that he is in a top 5 list is a mad newjack... Anyways...i like lopezand's list, except it definatly needs Rakim in it, and Pun is up there too...decent list though

02-23-2004, 09:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
JackJeckel Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 170	50 doesn't even write all of his lyrics. Em writes, and Dr. Dre writes (part of the problem). "He raps what he knows about?" I mean, personally I haven't heard in the news anything about 50 Cent shooting anyone lately, or him robbing any other rappers, and that is what he raps about. Yes he does write his own lyrics... dude, he ghostwrites for Dre, not the other way around Anyhoo while he's not even close to a top 5 lyricist hes damn good at what he does Plus, a lot of people have only heard Get Rich Or Die Trying and base their decisions off that... Power of the Dollar, Guess Who's Back were both ILL CD's, and after GRoDT he's consistently been putting out mixtape **** (G Unit Radio) and tons of unreleased songs... he's good Anyways top 5 Big L Guru Ghostface Killah Immortal Technique Breezly Brewin those are not my top 5 of all time, just the 5 im most feeling now... theres no way im going to narrow down ALL the mc's i know to top 5.

02-23-2004, 11:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lopezand Groupie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19	Im pretty sure they all ghostwrite for each other. But he doesn't write that much for dre, because how much does dre really rap on anything? Also, just because he puts out "mixtape ****" all the time, it doesn't mean that any of that is actually good.

02-23-2004, 11:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
exasko Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 67	what makes a good MC in your minds?

02-24-2004, 01:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
exasko Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 67	Pac can't free style.. he sucked at it, he could compose like a god but free style he couldn't really do well... Pac rapped about cars.. bitches, hoes.. he has done that... 50cent... lyrics are meanin ful.. Many Men.. holds great meaning about his life... he has a flow, and I have heard some of Pac's song which flow really was weak... 50cent is a good MC.. just have to set aside and give him time..

02-24-2004, 01:03 AM	#19 (permalink)
Rockafella Skank Management Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 609	I never said I thought 2Pac was a good MC. He's a good rapper, but not a good MC. (Also, I've heard some of 2Pac's freestyles and they're actually not bad. But that's besides the point.)

02-24-2004, 10:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
Lopezand Groupie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19	If by Pac rapping about "Cars money and hoes" you mean songs like "Picture me Rollin" I consider that a much better song than "Many Men." You also have to take into context what was going on in society at that time and also in Pac's life. You also have to take into consideration that a lot of the "gangsta rap" that pac started to spit towards the end of his career was highly influenced by Suge Knight and Death Row Records. I love pac, I dont consider him on my top 5 MC list though (or at least right now). 50 Cent is rapping about cars money and hoes in a much different way. He is just saying look at what I got. This is how I roll to get the honies. Stuff like that. I think that there is a large difference. As I said before and numerous times, I dont hate 50 Cent. He has songs that I listen to and enjoy. He has some rhymes that I can listen to. But I enjoy them as what they are. He is by no means a very good lyricist. He is by no means a top 5 MC out right now. He claims that he is so good, but he is comparing himself to the other mainstream rappers out right now. Lets be real 95% of the other "mainstream" rappers are horrible also. To say that he is one of the best in the game is way too premature and way too ridiculous. Once again, I dont hate 50 Cent, he has songs I can listen to, but I can not give him credit as an elite MC right now, and I dont think anyone should. And if you read my other posts, I know about his previous stuff too, so please dont use that again.