Illmatic - is it worth the hype?

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-08-2015, 07:44 PM

best song on illmatic easily

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-08-2015, 07:58 PM

not gonna lie i do judge all you people who don't rate illmatic

i think you don't get 90's east coast hip hop that well if you don't at least like illmatic

but i'm not one of those who gets mad if you don't rate it among the top ten albums or whatever
i remember the first time i heard it it sounded boring as **** to me

i developed a taste over time for minimalist dark hip hop beats laced with sick verses

open question to anyone who doesn't feel illmatic:

what do you think of mobb deep - the infamous?

black moon - enta da stage?

smif n wessun - dah shinin?

organized konfusion - stress?

obviously pick and choose any of the above that you've heard/have a comment on... i don't need everyone to rate every album

**Goofle** · 03-08-2015, 08:08 PM

Heard most of them. All pretty decent.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-08-2015, 08:16 PM

alright lemme be a bit more specific with you

what do you think of this track?

edit: let me note - you need to blast this kind of **** to enjoy it. if you're gonna listen to it at a low volume then even i would find it boring

**Goofle** · 03-08-2015, 08:21 PM

Not really what tickles my fancy these days. Pretty boring beat, and he's not the most engaging rapper on that track.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-08-2015, 08:44 PM

alright. i'll respect that cause it's honest

this is how i see it

the beat is dark as ****, sets the perfect tone for some hardcore east coast projects type rap tales

the lyrics are similar to the beats in that they don't try too hard to come up with witty one liners or any **** like that they just keep it focused on the main theme which is basically a sort of nihilistic version of thug life. bragging the **** too as part of his armor yet you can hear the undertones of pain because he doesn't dress it up and try to make it pretty

i mean what better way to open a song about street life than this:

Quote:

I'm yawning while i wake up to the early morning gun fire
Another day another scar to acquire
Jumped out my bed, tried to break my alarm
Took a shower, and then I strapped on my firearm
Grabbed my Pelle Pelle cause I wanna look fly when I die,
But it ain't my time to say goodbye
How do I know? Some people call it instinct
I like to call it my luck, who gives a ****

p is ****in wilin out on this track lol

Quote:

I'm stuck, in this environment and can't depart from it
And if I try I always end up back where I started
Plan A, square 1, there's no escapin'
So I've come to realize my truth
Tryna live my full life until my time is through
Clocks tickin', so I don't got no time for you
As I head outside, amongst the rest of the animals
Is where I feel relaxed and safe and I can stand still
It's sorta like a family bond
We gather up all the soldiers and form into an invincible
swarm of kids, now it's on again, drinking straight from the bottle,
warm gin dripping down my chin

honestly man it's like he takes this niche and distills it into the finest liquor

DwnWthVwls · 03-25-2015, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

what do you think of this track?

That's a dope track.

TheMainMan · 03-25-2015, 09:17 PM

yes im quoting something from alllll the way back to 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeytennis

Nas is one of the most skillful MC's imo, but even if you don't think he is, that particular album is flawless.

I also don't understand how the production is average? What makes it average? It is quintessential, New York, 90's Hip-Hop.

thats your opinion. It was written is a better album to me and im not even a nas fan

DwnWthVwls · 03-25-2015, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMainMan

yes im quoting something from alllll the way back to 2012

thats your opinion. It was written is a better album to me and im not even a nas fan

That's probably why Written is a better album to you, lol.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-26-2015, 01:43 AM

there was a while that i thought it was written was better tbh. the more i started to obsess over the early 90's ny sound the better illmatic's production started to sound to me

and i don't really consider myself a nas fan either. to me a nas fan is someone who rates mediocre albums like hhid and street's disciple and believes that nas actually sonned jay-z

03-08-2015, 07:58 PM	#92 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	not gonna lie i do judge all you people who don't rate illmatic i think you don't get 90's east coast hip hop that well if you don't at least like illmatic but i'm not one of those who gets mad if you don't rate it among the top ten albums or whatever i remember the first time i heard it it sounded boring as **** to me i developed a taste over time for minimalist dark hip hop beats laced with sick verses open question to anyone who doesn't feel illmatic: what do you think of mobb deep - the infamous? black moon - enta da stage? smif n wessun - dah shinin? organized konfusion - stress? obviously pick and choose any of the above that you've heard/have a comment on... i don't need everyone to rate every album Last edited by John Wilkes Booth; 03-08-2015 at 08:04 PM.

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	alright lemme be a bit more specific with you what do you think of this track? edit: let me note - you need to blast this kind of **** to enjoy it. if you're gonna listen to it at a low volume then even i would find it boring Last edited by John Wilkes Booth; 03-08-2015 at 08:22 PM.

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	best song on illmatic easily

03-26-2015, 01:43 AM	#100 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	there was a while that i thought it was written was better tbh. the more i started to obsess over the early 90's ny sound the better illmatic's production started to sound to me and i don't really consider myself a nas fan either. to me a nas fan is someone who rates mediocre albums like hhid and street's disciple and believes that nas actually sonned jay-z