Hip-Hop criticisms

**Goofle** · 12-19-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Merrycaaant

Seriously how can anyone take an album that has aged so horribly and is so simplistic in terms of production and rhyming and paint it as a 5 * classic.
Just because you were first doesn't make you best.

It's neither the first or best, but it's great.

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

There is too much braggadocio in the majority of hip hop music.

And "Nation of Millions" is an incredible album, although I think I prefer "Fear of a Black Planet."

I certainly prefer Nation of Millions in every way.

Circe · 12-19-2012, 04:14 PM

My main criticism would be that almost the entire mainstream hip hop industry is just one big money making machine for a load of despicable misogynist scumbags who feel that ramming gold into their mouths while the families from the neighbourhoods they grew up in continue to live in poverty (that's not even getting into the audacity of the ones who continue to rap about how hard life was there while sporting this kind of money). I think every other problem in the industry is perfectly illustrated by the fact that Chris Brown continues to have a successful career.

anticipation · 12-19-2012, 05:01 PM

"hip hop is dead, i brought it back/i am it reincarnated."

nig no u ain't.

14232949 · 12-19-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Circe

My main criticism would be that almost the entire mainstream hip hop industry is just one big money making machine for a load of despicable misogynist scumbags who feel that ramming gold into their mouths while the families from the neighbourhoods they grew up in continue to live in poverty (that's not even getting into the audacity of the ones who continue to rap about how hard life was there while sporting this kind of money). I think every other problem in the industry is perfectly illustrated by the fact that Chris Brown continues to have a successful career.

Chris Brown ain't our problem. He's a pop artist. Believe me there is more substance if one were to look past the mainstream and artists that those without any particular knowledge of the subject would consider to be the norm.
I could point at rock artists in the same way and use the most popular musicians as templates for what I wrongly perceived the whole make-up of the genre to be.

Also, on the topic of A Nation of Millions, will one person tell me what is so ****ing great about it.
It's so dull and repetitive that when listening to it I just longed it to be over, y'know just because the media says it's good doesn't make it so.

Sparky · 12-19-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrycaaant

Also, on the topic of A Nation of Millions, will one person tell me what is so ****ing great about it.
It's so dull and repetitive that when listening to it I just longed it to be over, y'know just because the media says it's good doesn't make it so.

Name me another hip hop album from 1988 that you think has more dynamic production and better lyricism.

**Goofle** · 12-20-2012, 01:54 AM

Manky, you like to be different, and I admire that, but I can't get behind you on this.

SGR · 12-20-2012, 06:21 AM

Is it just Nation you have a problem with Manky, or do you not like Fear or Apocalypse either?

**Janszoon** · 12-20-2012, 06:57 AM

Hip hop criticism: ugly album covers. Not saying it's all bad or anything, there's plenty I like, but the worst hip hop album covers are some of the worst album art of any genre.

14232949 · 12-20-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Name me another hip hop album from 1988 that you think has more dynamic production and better lyricism.

I greatly prefer Follow The Leader and The Great Adventures of Slick Rick.
But in terms of production, none of the three albums can stand up to what's being produced today, I just feel that A Nation of Millions has aged the worst out of the three mentioned.

The only decent track on the record is Bring The Noise, and that track is a lot better with the Anthrax input, the originals slow and plodding pace takes away from the somewhat clever lyricism.

I honestly cannot see why everyone hypes this record up so much, it just isn't that good and I find it quite frankly to be boring.

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

Is it just Nation you have a problem with Manky, or do you not like Fear or Apocalypse either?

Haven't heard the other record so can't fairly comment on it.

The Batlord · 12-20-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Hip hop criticism: ugly album covers. Not saying it's all bad or anything, there's plenty I like, but the worst hip hop album covers are some of the worst album art of any genre.

This made me wanna do a Google search. I'm glad I did.
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Circe Blunt After Blunt After Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a French-ass restaurant Posts: 337	My main criticism would be that almost the entire mainstream hip hop industry is just one big money making machine for a load of despicable misogynist scumbags who feel that ramming gold into their mouths while the families from the neighbourhoods they grew up in continue to live in poverty (that's not even getting into the audacity of the ones who continue to rap about how hard life was there while sporting this kind of money). I think every other problem in the industry is perfectly illustrated by the fact that Chris Brown continues to have a successful career.

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SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,326	Is it just Nation you have a problem with Manky, or do you not like Fear or Apocalypse either?