Jay-Z vs. Nas

~~Cuthbert~~ · 11-06-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

I like Nas and Jay-Z but there is no question. Nas wins too easily. In fact Jay-Z himself ruined his own brand by having a beef with Nas. This beef actually made Nas what he is today. A LEGEND. I mean Nas was always a better lyricist and a better MC overall than Jay-Z. Jay-Z is a effective businessman and he has been able to make large money. But musically, he is always been average. He did make one great record "BIG PIMPIN" which I was saw when I was 6 years old. I love this song and the video (of course because of the bootylicious girls). But Nas made tons of classic songs especially like ONE MIC. I mean that song was speaking the truth. Nas is more real and more respectable than Jay-Z.

Nas is better than Jay-Z.

By far the most important points in this post. That's all there is to it really.

**Goofle** · 11-07-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end

By far the most important points in this post. That's all there is to it really.

The first point is irrelevant, and the second point is probably not true. Jay Z usually has more interesting/good production compared to Nas, who usually lacks in that regard.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 11-07-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

The first point is irrelevant, and the second point is probably not true. Jay Z usually has more interesting/good production compared to Nas, who usually lacks in that regard.

It's not irrelevant when pretty much all the Jigga Stans I have debated with have used his wealth or the fact he's more successful to argue that he's the better musician.

And he has always been average. He was average in the 90's then turned himself into a legend through his own hype post-2000 when everything went a bit ****. The production on his albums does nothing for me, other than a few Just Blaze beats.

JustJunMC · 11-07-2012, 06:18 PM

Jay-Z - Heart Of The City - YouTube

This song is still pretty awesome... its got good arrangement

SGR · 11-08-2012, 05:34 AM

For me, I think Jay Z always delivers on the beats side.
So I'd break it down like this...

Lyrics - Nas
Flow - Jay Z
Rhyme Style - Jay Z
Beats - Jay Z
Consistency - Nas
Replayability - Nas
Delivery - Jay Z

Both are great, but I feel that Jay DOES get some unwarranted hate for being such a businness man even though he remains a great MC and has a great ear for music.

And for the record, imo, Takeover is 10X the song Ether will ever be. Better beats, better disses, funnier, AND a Morrison sample.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 11-15-2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

For me, I think Jay Z always delivers on the beats side.
So I'd break it down like this...

Lyrics - Nas
Flow - Jay Z
Rhyme Style - Jay Z
Beats - Jay Z
Consistency - Nas
Replayability - Nas
Delivery - Jay Z

Both are great, but I feel that Jay DOES get some unwarranted hate for being such a businness man even though he remains a great MC and has a great ear for music.

And for the record, imo, Takeover is 10X the song Ether will ever be. Better beats, better disses, funnier, AND a Morrison sample.

Flow, delivery and rhyme style you think Jay-Z is superior to Nas? You are entitled to your opinion but you have basically picked three of the things Nas is considered to be one of the greats at and said Jay-Z is better. Jay-Z has a very sluggish flow anyways in my opinion.

SGR · 11-15-2012, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end

Flow, delivery and rhyme style you think Jay-Z is superior to Nas? You are entitled to your opinion but you have basically picked three of the things Nas is considered to be one of the greats at and said Jay-Z is better. Jay-Z has a very sluggish flow anyways in my opinion.

Nas's flow and delivery are often lazy and boring. The dude is a great lyricist, but his flow his very drab.

RD is a classic because it focused on what drug dealing and project living can do to the MIND of a person instead of promoting and glorifying it.

Newkie · 11-15-2012, 07:28 AM

Yeah, I do think Jay Z's rep suffers a bit from his general association with acts the "community" may disapprove of, but I have to go with Nas. Some of his songs are boring, but lyrically he's no.1 and that swings it for me.

11-07-2012, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
JustJunMC Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Hongcouver & Global Posts: 125	Jay-Z - Heart Of The City - YouTube This song is still pretty awesome... its got good arrangement __________________ So now I cant even post my own nickname in my signature or have an avatar of a graphic design I made that has my username on here? I dont know who is doing it but please provide a legit reason why my material is suddenly being singled out. Thanks

11-08-2012, 05:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,327	For me, I think Jay Z always delivers on the beats side. So I'd break it down like this... Lyrics - Nas Flow - Jay Z Rhyme Style - Jay Z Beats - Jay Z Consistency - Nas Replayability - Nas Delivery - Jay Z Both are great, but I feel that Jay DOES get some unwarranted hate for being such a businness man even though he remains a great MC and has a great ear for music. And for the record, imo, Takeover is 10X the song Ether will ever be. Better beats, better disses, funnier, AND a Morrison sample.