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Goofle 12-05-2012 09:30 PM

Because people don't understand subjectivity, whilst ironically using subjectivity as their only argumentative tool.

FrigginParadox 12-05-2012 09:38 PM

True, but also i feel like Jay Z v Nas topic has been milked out so much that eventually what is their to talk about it? but anyway these would all need different topics since books are not related what so ever

Cuthbert 12-05-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1258267)
Yes, of course. If you think something is terrible then erm... it's terrible. Pretty fucking simple.

lol

So if I think Steve Jobs was a terrible businessman, it becomes fact that he was a terrible businessman?

Cuthbert 12-05-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1258281)
If you can't differentiate personal taste from mastery of medium ... well then you're just plain wrong. And uninformed, at that.

This, can't believe people are arguing against it.

Goofle earlier in the thread you said Jay-Z is more interesting musically and I said he wasn't. So does that mean he is and isn't since we both think he is and isn't?

midnight rain 12-05-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end (Post 1258490)
lol

So if I think Steve Jobs was a terrible businessman, it becomes fact that he was a terrible businessman?

This is not my first exchange where he's been like this. He's more concerned with asserting his dominance than actually having a good discussion.

FrigginParadox 12-05-2012 09:57 PM

All of this seems like its based on opinion. its like they are clashing and we cant come to a medium

Cuthbert 12-05-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FrigginParadox (Post 1258497)
All of this seems like its based on opinion. its like they are clashing and we cant come to a medium

Yeah but I could quite easily have said Jay-Z is terrible at the start of this thread, I don't listen to his music and I think he's a massive knob. I didn't say it cos isn't the point to have a fair discussion? Whatever I think doesn't change whether he's good or not.

Goofle 12-05-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end (Post 1258493)
This, can't believe people are arguing against it.

Goofle earlier in the thread you said Jay-Z is more interesting musically and I said he wasn't. So does that mean he is and isn't since we both think he is and isn't?

I never said Jay-Z was terrible, Jans thinks he is. Subjectivity.

Goofle 12-05-2012 10:04 PM

How people think that an individual's subjective opinion does not necessarily have to be correct unless it coincides with their own subjective opinion bemuses me.

FrigginParadox 12-05-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end (Post 1258499)
Yeah but I could quite easily have said Jay-Z is terrible at the start of this thread, I don't listen to his music and I think he's a massive knob. I didn't say it cos isn't the point to have a fair discussion? Whatever I think doesn't change whether he's good or not.

and i think that is the point we all need to understand


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